2019-2020 Roster

BamaMike05 said:

https://twitter.com/cecilhurt/status/1133811046022602752?s=21

Love this guy more and more everyday!


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This new coach of ours ain't afraid to say what he thinks...kinda reminds me of another coach... ole what's his name! :wink:

I don't know about a starting lineup, because it sounds like CNO is breaking these boys down and is going to build them back up. Regardless of who starts, I'm mostly interested in seeing who, among our returning roster, has improved the most.

Before the latest about Mack, he would have been my guess, but it sounds like he's out. Next on my list, in no particular order, is: John Petty, Herb Jones and Alex Reece.

If Reece can adapt to the newer fast pace, he could make some huge leaps forward. For a big man, he plays more like a small forward. Reece shoot the 3 well and I think that will improve.

If John Petty ever gets some real confidence in his shooting back, with improved fundamentals (especially dribbling and passing) he could have a big offensive year.

If Herb Jones can develop a mid-range jumper he would be a beast. I'm not as confident about his shooting abilities (last year he was a brick layer), but I figure CNO will figure out the best way to use him.

I'm not fogetting Kira Lewis, but he was our most complete player last year until being 17 caught up with him late in the season. With improved physical and mental conditioning, he'll be even better this year.

Good note, Moon. At the risk of turning this into a generational discussion ... it's surprising that the three scholarship athletes you singled out, all playing at the highest collegiate level of their sport, still have such fundamental holes in their games. John Petty is not a consistent shooter and labors at dribbling and passing. Herbert can't shoot. Alex has the lateral movement of a concrete block. It will fascinating to see how much improvement they can make. We really haven't seen effective player development since the C.M. and Wimp eras. Coach Nate says he's a teacher. We're all about to see how good he is at that job.

BamaMoon said:

This new coach of ours ain't afraid to say what he thinks...kinda reminds me of another coach... ole what's his name! :wink:

I don't know about a starting lineup, because it sounds like CNO is breaking these boys down and is going to build them back up. Regardless of who starts, I'm mostly interested in seeing who, among our returning roster, has improved the most.

Before the latest about Mack, he would have been my guess, but it sounds like he's out. Next on my list, in no particular order, is: John Petty, Herb Jones and Alex Reece.

If Reece can adapt to the newer fast pace, he could make some huge leaps forward. For a big man, he plays more like a small forward. Reece shoot the 3 well and I think that will improve.

If John Petty ever gets some real confidence in his shooting back, with improved fundamentals (especially dribbling and passing) he could have a big offensive year.

If Herb Jones can develop a mid-range jumper he would be a beast. I'm not as confident about his shooting abilities (last year he was a brick layer), but I figure CNO will figure out the best way to use him.

I'm not fogetting Kira Lewis, but he was our most complete player last year until being 17 caught up with him late in the season. With improved physical and mental conditioning, he'll be even better this year.

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imauafan said:

CNO interview with WVUA.

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I liked the part where he was talking about CNS being great about helping with recruiting. To paraphrase: They had a recruit in earlier this week and he (CNS) was great. It went great. The mother was ready to sign right there.

Good insight to the recruiting trip to Quinerly. Already rumblings of how well the trip went. Guess this confirms it.

Edit: Finished listening to the clip. Very good interview! Lots of good info about the roster changes. Sounded VERY positive about Quinerly and said everybody else can talk about how good things were looking, but he couldn't. Also mentioned that Rojas is still finishing classwork. Took some classes online expecting to be at Buffalo. In changing to SEC, had to retake in classroom due to league rules not allowing online (I think he said science, math, etc). Worth taking time to listen as other good info as well, but I can't remember it all.

During that inverview, CNO mentioned a funny tweet that had come out about all the coaches who were hired talking about playing fast. Well, I found it. Amusing hearing all the coaches talking about it.

https://twitter.com/hoopvision68/status/1118531627670487042?lang=en

Article summarizing CNO's statements about Rojas:

“He’s not going to be able till August, like for the fall. He won’t be here this summer,” Oats said Thursday. “The SEC has a rule that your math, English and science have to be taken in class and he had taken some of those classes online, planning to come to us at Buffalo.

“I guess some of the classes just work out better where he went to junior college at Hutch. He took them online, so they always had their guys take them online. We didn’t necessarily plan on being in the SEC, so now that he wants to play for us in the SEC, he’s got to take some of those classes sitting in a chair and so he’s got to do that over the summer. He’s finishing up his course work over the summer, and then he’ll be with us in the fall.”

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https://247sports.com/college/alabama/Article/Alabama-Basketball-Nate-Oats-explains-why-James-Rojas-wont-join-the-Crimson-Tide-until-August-132443850/

REALLY excited about our team this next season!!! :cool2:

Me too. we will be in tournament no more bubble.

mlingerfelt31 said:

Me too. we will be in tournament no more bubble.

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I'd temper my enthusiasm just a bit.

Realistically, I think in year one we'll have a few growing pains....maybe similar to 2007 in football. Don't think that I'm saying I don't feel good about CNO, or that I think he won't be successful, but if we are a bubble team next year I don't think that's a bad sign in his first year.

Optimistically, I think CNO's teaching and coaching ability gets us another 3-5 wins instead of losses and that gets us in the tourney very comfortably. And the biggest thing I'll be watching is how we are playing near the end of the SEC regular season and tourney. Under CAJ we typically played our worst basketball and faded during the end of the season. I'm hoping this is one of the big trends CNO helps us break!

Exactly. He wants to run a high speed, three-point heavy offense with a team that currently has a dearth of ball-handlers and shooters. We will play faster. We will guard baseline to baseline. That doesn't mean we will win from the start.

BamaMoon said:

I'd temper my enthusiasm just a bit.

Realistically, I think in year one we'll have a few growing pains....maybe similar to 2007 in football. Don't think that I'm saying I don't feel good about CNO, or that I think he won't be successful, but if we are a bubble team next year I don't think that's a bad sign in his first year.

Optimistically, I think CNO's teaching and coaching ability gets us another 3-5 wins instead of losses and that gets us in the tourney very comfortably. And the biggest thing I'll be watching is how we are playing near the end of the SEC regular season and tourney. Under CAJ we typically played our worst basketball and faded during the end of the season. I'm hoping this is one of the big trends CNO helps us break!

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BamaMoon said:

I'd temper my enthusiasm just a bit.

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I dig what you are saying. When Avery came on board I was super excited as well. Mainly, it had to do with is presence, polished speaking ability and NBA pedigree. It wore out quick, real quick. But this is different. Two months after Oats is hired EVERYTHING about the program seems have changed. He lets his actions speak. He has a tremendous track record. Roster is totally revamped. I mean, I think this guy is the real deal. Now, I don't expect us to win the SEC next season. I don't even expect a tournament berth. But, I do expect to see a totally different brand of Basketball from the individual players and the whole team in general. I already have plans to go see a couple of early games and posting on this board more that I ever have in the past. So I have swallowed this thing, hook, line and sinker!

BamaMoon said:

I'd temper my enthusiasm just a bit.

Realistically, I think in year one we'll have a few growing pains....maybe similar to 2007 in football. Don't think that I'm saying I don't feel good about CNO, or that I think he won't be successful, but if we are a bubble team next year I don't think that's a bad sign in his first year.

Optimistically, I think CNO's teaching and coaching ability gets us another 3-5 wins instead of losses and that gets us in the tourney very comfortably. And the biggest thing I'll be watching is how we are playing near the end of the SEC regular season and tourney. Under CAJ we typically played our worst basketball and faded during the end of the season. I'm hoping this is one of the big trends CNO helps us break!

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Do I think we are going to win the league next year? No, but I think we have enough talent to make the tourney fairly comfortably if we can schedule well early in the year. Here is what I see from the outside looking in.

1)We will be in much better shape physically- I never thought we had a decent strength coach in years past and was disappointed when Avery chose to keep Coach Lou as a holdover from Grants tenure. We always seemed to have injuries no one else was having.
2) We are absolutely relentless on the recruiting trail and not only with Pettway. Coach Oats is keeping his face in front of recruits as well.
3)We'll play a system kids will like and want to play in. I am not sure anyone in the conference will play as fast as Coach Oats states he want to play. His Buffalo team averaged over 84 points a game. I don't think we scored than many more than 4 or 5 times last year.
4) I think he is a heart a teacher and it shows. He comes from a teaching background so I think he can translate the system to the players. We had trouble with that issue in the past.
5) Last, but certainly not least, he will demand accountability from the players and his staff that has been sorely lacking. You can't have a kid commit a turnover and then pat him on the butt. Kids learn from their mistakes more than their successes.

I simply have different feel than I had with the previous coaches and I think this is my 5th coach since I've been going to games. Honestly, I've made the mistake of drinking the kool aid before, but I think this time we may have finally gotten it right. RTR.

What I am saying I think we will a decent season I know we will some growing pains I think time we get in our SEC schedule they will gel.

I'm excited too. I'm a believer in Oats already. All I was referencing earlier is year one in a program doesn't always translate into instant success.

In the long run...I think we have much better success, but he's got to change the culture and recruit (which in 2 months he's done a great job of already).

Could this year be special (win around 25 games and win a game or two in the tourney)? Yes, but it all depends on how the players adapt to his vision. But I think after next year making the tourney and winning 25 games a year should become the norm.

I want to see a team that will improve as the season goes along and will hustle each game like it's the last game they will play. I believe this coaching staff will teach our players how to win. It will be a process just like in football. We will play teams with bigger and better players but we should win a few of those games because of coaching. The W's will take care of themselves. I look forward to Bball season. It will be a fun ride.

Moro Creek said:

I want to see a team that will improve as the season goes along and will hustle each game like it's the last game they will play. I believe this coaching staff will teach our players how to win. It will be a process just like in football. We will play teams with bigger and better players but we should win a few of those games because of coaching. The W's will take care of themselves. I look forward to Bball season. It will be a fun ride.

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Yea.....we’ve kind of lost that feeling with the football program.....the fun of the initial building of the program. I’m not complaining, mind you, but it will be a fun ride!!