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    Re: Will Blazer's Comments Get Any Traction (about Bama football)?

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonaudio View Post
    IIRC, these dates fall outside the NCAA's statute of limitations.
    It does.

    Not it to mention the fact that there’s no real evidence here.

    But I’ll say this: I absolutely believe him when he said Bama players got paid. At the same time, he could have named any school in the conference. Anyone entertaining any notion of purity with regard to any major CFB program is living in fantasyland. I’m not throwing stones from my glass house.
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    Re: Will Blazer's Comments Get Any Traction (about Bama football)?

    Quote Originally Posted by AUDub View Post
    It does.

    Not it to mention the fact that there’s no real evidence here.

    But I’ll say this: I absolutely believe him when he said Bama players got paid. At the same time, he could have named any school in the conference. Anyone entertaining any notion of purity with regard to any major CFB program is living in fantasyland. I’m not throwing stones from my glass house.
    Don't you know? Every school is cheating but (insert favorite school name here). All of these players are turning down money from everyone else to go to (insert favorite school name here) for free.
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    Re: Will Blazer's Comments Get Any Traction (about Bama football)?

    Quote Originally Posted by RTR91 View Post
    No reason at this point to expect anything to come of it.

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    Re: Will Blazer's Comments Get Any Traction (about Bama football)?

    When in doubt just throw Bama's name out there so someone will pay attention, LOL. I completely understand that this is a guy testifying under oath, but I still have a hard time believing he is doing anything other than throwing names out there without proof to enhance his testimony. The LSU fans are spreading this like crazy, because obviously having Alabama Football mentioned in a trial is just as egregious as having your basketball coach caught on tape buying players by the FBI.

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    Re: Will Blazer's Comments Get Any Traction (about Bama football)?

    I wonder what a program is expected to do when they hear something like this. Are they required to investigate?

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    Re: Will Blazer's Comments Get Any Traction (about Bama football)?

    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    I wonder what a program is expected to do when they hear something like this. Are they required to investigate?
    I'm sure that's what is expected, but what can a school do without more information? Where does one start if the only information is "I gave money to player(s) at ________ during this time period."
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    Re: Will Blazer's Comments Get Any Traction (about Bama football)?

    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    I wonder what a program is expected to do when they hear something like this. Are they required to investigate?
    investigate what? 10 years old crap. NCAA usually does not investigate stuff over 4 years old. Paper trail? I'm not so sure, he says he has no reciepts for these wires. I would have keep those for sure. OK, who does this involve? can't say? why not? My biggest red flag is that this is part of a plea deal to mitigate jail time. This smells, could be true but i'm doubting it.

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    Re: Will Blazer's Comments Get Any Traction (about Bama football)?

    Quote Originally Posted by bamabill123 View Post
    investigate what? 10 years old crap. NCAA usually does not investigate stuff over 4 years old. Paper trail? I'm not so sure, he says he has no reciepts for these wires. I would have keep those for sure. OK, who does this involve? can't say? why not? My biggest red flag is that this is part of a plea deal to mitigate jail time. This smells, could be true but i'm doubting it.
    By the simple fact his use of UNC is accurate, his testimony is at least a little credible.

    Why would he keep receipts of the wire transfers? That's just more of a paper trail. To be honest, he should have only worked in cash.
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    Re: Will Blazer's Comments Get Any Traction (about Bama football)?

    Quote Originally Posted by bamabill123 View Post
    investigate what? 10 years old crap. NCAA usually does not investigate stuff over 4 years old. Paper trail? .
    Correct, but its not the biggest issue in this revelation. It gives insights to what kinda folks Alabama is dealing with, and could be very useful to a dirt digger to unearth some shady stuff Alabama does by directing them to the proper landfill

    Quote Originally Posted by bamabill123 View Post
    Paper trail? I'm not so sure, he says he has no reciepts for these wires. I would have keep those for sure. .
    The point is not to have a paper trail so I really doubt there is one for most bagmen. I mean hell, Ole Miss didn't really have one, it was more about a rival player ratting on them mixed with some very curious circumstances that happened.
    Quote Originally Posted by bamabill123 View Post
    My biggest red flag is that this is part of a plea deal to mitigate jail time. .
    Even so, it is basically a good warning to everyone not to be using these guys while the FBI is snooping these guys.


    Quote Originally Posted by bamabill123 View Post
    This smells, could be true but i'm doubting it.
    doubting what? That Alabama (like everyone else in college football) passes money to recruits, or that they dealt with this guy? For the former its pretty obvious that its true; for the latter its anyone's guess but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it is true.
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    Re: Will Blazer's Comments Get Any Traction (about Bama football)?

    Quote Originally Posted by RTR91 View Post
    By the simple fact his use of UNC is accurate, his testimony is at least a little credible.

    Why would he keep receipts of the wire transfers? That's just more of a paper trail. To be honest, he should have only worked in cash.
    My hope is that the age of the transgressions means that the programs can ignore it, or at least offers an excuse for ignoring it. No school wants to dig into this, because this guy is not lying. A single lie in his testimony would invalidate his plea deal. He may or may not have receipts for the wire transfers to offer as proof, but we really don't want to find out.

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    Re: Will Blazer's Comments Get Any Traction (about Bama football)?

    At a certain point people become numb to all of this.
    Apologies if I said anything that could be construed as a personal insult.
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    Re: Will Blazer's Comments Get Any Traction (about Bama football)?

    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    My hope is that the age of the transgressions means that the programs can ignore it, or at least offers an excuse for ignoring it. No school wants to dig into this, because this guy is not lying. A single lie in his testimony would invalidate his plea deal. He may or may not have receipts for the wire transfers to offer as proof, but we really don't want to find out.
    I would be more concerned about phone records than wire and receipts. Most bagmen do use burners, but you have that occasional idiot in the group. The reasons receipts aren't important is that most of this stuff is done in cash, and most of the times from several untraceable sources.

    I think a good documentary to watch is the foul play series on youtube by sbnation to see how bagmen work. It follows the whole Ole Miss scandal. I would link it if it wasn't for language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AUDub View Post
    It does.

    Not it to mention the fact that there’s no real evidence here.

    But I’ll say this: I absolutely believe him when he said Bama players got paid. At the same time, he could have named any school in the conference. Anyone entertaining any notion of purity with regard to any major CFB program is living in fantasyland. I’m not throwing stones from my glass house.
    Aye - anyone who believes that there aren't players receiving illegal benefits at every serious D1 school is fooling themselves...
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