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    Re: Tua's status for the 2020 draft - according to NFL Scouts

    Quote Originally Posted by Bamabuzzard View Post
    The coach expects the player to adjust his game to his level of injury to rationalize still putting him in the line up. If his adjustment to his injury doesn't still make him better than the second string guy. Then he doesn't play. But the player has to be honest with the coach about the degree of the injury and his ability to "play through it". It's not hollow coach speak. It's why a lot of times coaches (as I think Coach Saban and staff does) put the nicked up player through pre game drills to see for themselves whether he can go. We did the same thing during pre game warmups in baseball.
    It is my opinion that Tua simply never received proper training in how to avoid contact when his mobility is limited (throw the ball away). Without training and repetition players struggle. That gap was on the coaches. Practice until you can't get it wrong.

    He did much better at this in the spring game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    It is my opinion that Tua simply never received proper training in how to avoid contact when his mobility is limited (throw the ball away). Without training and repetition players struggle. That gap was on the coaches. Practice until you can't get it wrong.

    He did much better at this in the spring game.
    I have no clue about that. I know going from some of CNS's sideline reactions when Tua held the ball too long indicates he was at least told. I can recall times when Tua held the ball too long, was pressured and the limitation of the ankle came into play. Resulting in CNS having a nuclear melt down on the sideline screaming "THROW THE BALL AWAY!!!!".
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    Re: Tua's status for the 2020 draft - according to NFL Scouts

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    In 2019 it's beat Clemson and win the title or bust. Anything less will be a disappointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamabuzzard View Post
    I have no clue about that. I know going from some of CNS's sideline reactions when Tua held the ball too long indicates he was at least told. I can recall times when Tua held the ball too long, was pressured and the limitation of the ankle came into play. Resulting in CNS having a nuclear melt down on the sideline screaming "THROW THE BALL AWAY!!!!".
    You don't tell players how to play. You train, and train, and train. You have to train bad habits out of players.

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    Re: Tua's status for the 2020 draft - according to NFL Scouts

    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    You don't tell players how to play. You train, and train, and train. You have to train bad habits out of players.
    Well unfortunately, you don't have time in practices to train how to play when you get injured. You just do it. So I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamabuzzard View Post
    Well unfortunately, you don't have time in practices to train how to play when you get injured. You just do it. So I don't know.
    What's done is done. Let's hope that he has been properly trained now. The road to #18 stands in front of him.

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    Re: Tua's status for the 2020 draft - according to NFL Scouts

    Quote Originally Posted by RollTide_HTTR View Post
    FWIW Todd McShay did his first mock for 2020 and had 7 Bama guys in the 1st round.

    1. Tua - Dolphins
    2. Jeudy - Cardinals
    10. Terrell Lewis - Bills
    14. Raekwon - Vikings
    22. Ruggs - Colts
    24. Leatherwood - Cowboys
    25. Diggs - Eagles
    And that's missing Najee, Devonta, Moses or Jennings..... geez.... that's some crazy stuff right there!
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    Re: Tua's status for the 2020 draft - according to NFL Scouts

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunCrimson View Post
    And that's missing Najee, Devonta, Moses or Jennings..... geez.... that's some crazy stuff right there!
    Jennings probably has the best chance out of all those to get a 1st round pick, but I doubt any of them get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    Jennings probably has the best chance out of all those to get a 1st round pick, but I doubt any of them get it.
    I've seen 3 mock drafts today -- all had Najee and Moses. I even saw one with McKinney and Shy.....

    That means at least 13 guys that someone is saying is a first round pick next year.

    I get that anyone can do a mock -- but still, these are sites like ESPN, Walterfootball, USAToday, etc.

    We are loaded....and I would love it if we set some all-time records this year on a way to an undefeated season --

    I will actually be pulling for Clemson this year all the way to the Championship Game.......just for the chance to make it right!

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    Re: Tua's status for the 2020 draft - according to NFL Scouts

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunCrimson View Post
    I've seen 3 mock drafts today -- all had Najee and Moses. I even saw one with McKinney and Shy.....

    That means at least 13 guys that someone is saying is a first round pick next year.

    I get that anyone can do a mock -- but still, these are sites like ESPN, Walterfootball, USAToday, etc.

    We are loaded....and I would love it if we set some all-time records this year on a way to an undefeated season --

    I will actually be pulling for Clemson this year all the way to the Championship Game.......just for the chance to make it right!

    RTR!
    Yeah and how many had Thompson and Mack in the 1st 2 rounds? I say the sure two that will not be in the 1st round is Najee and Moses. Moses's coverage is just not on par with what the NFL wants, and Najee has Bo Scarbourough type issues in that sometimes he looks like an elite runningback but then there are those times when he is caught doing too much or too little. If either of those two get to the 1st round I would be SHOCKED.

    Jennings probably has the ability to move up with a pretty solid year, but also take into account that there are only 32 picks in the 1st round. Even expecting 4 players going seems unrealistic. If I was to say the for sure 1st rounders it would be Tua, Lewis (if healthy), and Juedy. Diggs would probably be the 4th.
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    Moses could be a 1st rounder, but he will have to really step up his game. He has the talent. I am not sure that he will get the coaching at his position.

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    Re: Tua's status for the 2020 draft - according to NFL Scouts

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunCrimson View Post
    I've seen 3 mock drafts today -- all had Najee and Moses. I even saw one with McKinney and Shy.....

    That means at least 13 guys that someone is saying is a first round pick next year.

    I get that anyone can do a mock -- but still, these are sites like ESPN, Walterfootball, USAToday, etc.

    We are loaded....and I would love it if we set some all-time records this year on a way to an undefeated season --

    I will actually be pulling for Clemson this year all the way to the Championship Game.......just for the chance to make it right!

    RTR!
    The 2004 Miami team holds the record for 1st rounders at 6. I think we get that record. Bama/SEC all time number of players drafted is 12 which happened in 2018. We will beat that record. The 2004 Ohio State team holds the modern day record with 14 that we have a shot at. B1G will like this stat.

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    Re: Tua's status for the 2020 draft - according to NFL Scouts

    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    Moses could be a 1st rounder, but he will have to really step up his game. He has the talent. I am not sure that he will get the coaching at his position.
    Unless he learns how to cover I think we are looking at a 3rd round pick. The NFL is a passing league, and if you cant cover then you aren't going 1st day if you are on defense.
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