Tua's status for the 2020 draft - according to NFL Scouts

B1GTide · Apr 30, 2019

dWarriors88 said:
I thought it was interesting they correlated Tua having bad games to getting hit.

We will find out a lot more this year. The assumption by Alabama fans is that Tua played poorly against teams with better defenses because he was injured.

Most analysts are not buying that. They know that he was injured, but they think that it was primarily a result of his difficulty when playing against solid defensive fronts. I guess that they forgot the CFPCG against Georgia, but it really doesn't matter right now. That is the perception. He needs to stay healthy and play better down the stretch this year.

CoachJeff · Apr 30, 2019

RollTide_HTTR said:
Yea but they have been knocked by media and fans a lot because of how that loss went. Think Patriots. They always have a chip on their shoulder even though they continue to win Super Bowls. Little things like bounty gate and deflate gate added to that chip or at least that's the perception.

I agree its championship or bust but I just think there may be a little chip on this teams shoulder that wasn't there last season.

Nothing Bama does in the regular season will erase the final game of 2018.

B1GTide · Apr 30, 2019

CoachJeff said:
Nothing Bama does in the regular season will erase the final game of 2018.

My wife said it was karma calling for what Tua/Jalen did to GA fans twice in less than a year.

BamaMoon · Apr 30, 2019

B1GTide said:
We will find out a lot more this year. The assumption by Alabama fans is that Tua played poorly against teams with better defenses because he was injured.

Most analysts are not buying that. They know that he was injured, but they think that it was primarily a result of his difficulty when playing against solid defensive fronts. I guess that they forgot the CFPCG against Georgia, but it really doesn't matter right now. That is the perception. He needs to stay healthy and play better down the stretch this year.

And I think the biggest thing is Tua has to make the adjustment to not try the hero throw as much. Taking what the defense gives us will probably be enough for him to be in the Heisman hunt again next year. He'll get his chances to take the shots, but the standard pitch and catch will work just fine with the Juedy, Ruggs and Smith firm.

I may be oversimplifying things, but I think that along with being better at confirming his pre-snap reads with post-snap reads will make all the difference in 2019.

BamaMoon · Apr 30, 2019

B1GTide said:
My wife said it was karma calling for what Tua/Jalen did to GA fans twice in less than a year.

That's gonna bother them all their lives.:biggrin2:

DzynKingRTR · Apr 30, 2019

BamaMoon said:
That's gonna bother them all their lives.:biggrin2:

I work with some UGA fans. They said if Mac Jones beats them this year, they will quit watch college ball.

BamaMoon · Apr 30, 2019

DzynKingRTR said:
I work with some UGA fans. They said if Mac Jones beats them this year, they will quit watch college ball.

Well, they are probably worried about the wrong guy. It would likely be Lia.

rtr90 · Apr 30, 2019

B1GTide said:
Yep - having 12 first round quality players on one team is crazy. Having 12 that could go out in one draft has simply never happened before. Alabama really needs to win #18 this year. I hope that the focus and work ethic matches the talent, because no team has ever been this talented.

way too early way too optimistic.

I am not even sure Tua is going to be drafted in 1st round. Lot more progress to be accomplished and injuries can completely change a player.

BamaFanatJSU · Apr 30, 2019

rtr90 said:
I am not even sure Tua is going to be drafted in 1st round. Lot more progress to be accomplished and injuries can completely change a player.

Of course, injuries can derail any career, but multiple people in this thread keep saying this same thing, and honestly, it's just fans trying to be (falsely) modest. Seriously, I just watched Daniel Jones - whom I'd never even heard of prior to the Combine - get drafted at #6. If his skillset is what it takes to get drafted in the Top 10 as a QB, then it will take an absolute act of God to keep Tua out of the Top 3, if not #1 overall.

Let's get real: Tua is the most developed pure passer that has played college football in at least the last decade, and as long as he's remotely healthy, a half dozen NFL teams will be willing to pay a king's ransom to get him. And Trevor Lawrence will be a year behind him in exactly the same boat.

RollTide_HTTR · Apr 30, 2019

BamaFanatJSU said:
Of course, injuries can derail any career, but multiple people in this thread keep saying this same thing, and honestly, it's just fans trying to be (falsely) modest. Seriously, I just watched Daniel Jones - whom I'd never even heard of prior to the Combine - get drafted at #6. If his skillset is what it takes to get drafted in the Top 10 as a QB, then it will take an absolute act of God to keep Tua out of the Top 3, if not #1 overall.

Let's get real: Tua is the most developed pure passer that has played college football in at least the last decade, and as long as he's remotely healthy, a half dozen NFL teams will be willing to pay a king's ransom to get him. And Trevor Lawrence will be a year behind him in exactly the same boat.

I think its fair to question how early in the 1st Tua will go (barring injury) but I agree with you that people who think Tua isn't going round one are off. If he produces similarly to last year he's going round 1. When in round one and will any QBs go ahead of him are more valid questions.

But, i've been wrong before.

RollTide_HTTR · Apr 30, 2019

CoachJeff said:
Nothing Bama does in the regular season will erase the final game of 2018.

Of course not. And I don't think I implied that it would?

JustNeedMe81 · Apr 30, 2019

For Tua to be top 5 picks, He has to continue to do what he does best with showing improvement in his reading coverages on the field, making the progressions from left to right, and knowing when to check down to RB or TE. I think his biggest test are in November/ December.

Go Bama · Apr 30, 2019

Tua’s biggest issue is he seems fragile. He was hurt early and often last year. If he goes through the season uninjured he may be Bama’s first number one draft pick. If he gets hurt as often as last year, I look for second round. The arm and head are solid.

CoachJeff · Apr 30, 2019

Go Bama said:
Tua’s biggest issue is he seems fragile. He was hurt early and often last year. If he goes through the season uninjured he may be Bama’s first number one draft pick. If he gets hurt as often as last year, I look for second round. The arm and head are solid.

Bama has had a #1 NFL draft pick. He was a QB too.

81usaf92 · Apr 30, 2019

CoachJeff said:
Bama has had a #1 NFL draft pick. He was a QB too.

Yes it happened, but I doubt anyone celebrated it to include Harry Gilmer.

But if you are seriously counting Gilmer then you yourself are off by 1.

DzynKingRTR · Apr 30, 2019

BamaMoon said:
Well, they are probably worried about the wrong guy. It would likely be Lia.

They just don't want to get beaten by the back-up QB again. I cannot imagine what Tidefans would be like if the situation was reversed.

RollTide_HTTR · Apr 30, 2019

CoachJeff said:
Bama has had a #1 NFL draft pick. He was a QB too.

Not in the modern era though. Which is mostly what matter when discussing NFL history/records at this point.

81usaf92 · Apr 30, 2019

RollTide_HTTR said:
Not in the modern era though.

Yeah it’s geewhiz knowledge that very few people bother to care about. I think everyone knew in what context the poster was referring to

RollTide_HTTR · Apr 30, 2019

81usaf92 said:
Yeah it’s geewhiz knowledge that very few people bother to care about. I think everyone knew in what context the poster was referring to

There is a reason no one pays attention to AFL or NFL championships before the merger. The Super Bowl is all that matters.

81usaf92 · Apr 30, 2019

RollTide_HTTR said:
There is a reason no one pays attention to AFL or NFL championships before the merger. The Super Bowl is all that matters.

I agree. It’s one of a few reasons packers, Browns, and bears fans a very annoying Lol

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