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    Re: (Offseason Topic)- Why do we teach our kids "this" about trash talking in sports?

    Little Catfish's baseball team won their first four games and most of the kids were pretty cool about it. There's one kid on the team who trash-talks constantly and I've tried to talk him down a little bit (I'm an assistant coach). The kid is really good and our head coach and his parents don't think it's a big deal, but I think it's a crappy way to conduct yourself. Especially at this level. Well, the fifth game comes along and we got royally crushed. Something like 18-4. He's still trash-talking and I said, "Be quiet. You know we're getting our butts kicked, right?" He said, "But it's fun!" I said, "You're 0 for 3 and the're about to call the game because we're more than ten runs behind. You taunting the other team makes you look dumb." He just stared at me and then started up again.
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    Re: (Offseason Topic)- Why do we teach our kids "this" about trash talking in sports?

    I am not sure that trash talking is a new phenomena. and what is considered trash talk anyway... is yelling "swing batter" trash talking... is directly quoting a Peanuts comic strip from the 50s/60s saying "you hit like my grandmother" as the batter is at the plate... is that trash talking? Is any of that really new? Was the trash talking back in the Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth days a "sign of the age"; what about "Billy Martin" or Reggie Jackson? I am all for remembering the halcyon days of youth, but with time those memories become a bit blurrier and folks don't always have perfect recall of the trash talking that was utilized and even appeared in children's comic strips (arguably what is considered the most wholesome comic ever).

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    Re: (Offseason Topic)- Why do we teach our kids "this" about trash talking in sports?

    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    Iíve also seen more fan brawls and fights on the field happen in HS soccer boys and girls than I have ever in Hs football.
    I never have gotten why a sport (in which only the goaltender can use their hands) that consist mainly of people running around on the field chasing a soccer ball can result in so many fights. Itís not like football or hockey where you have to play with a mean streak or even basketball where fouls happen because of the contact with your arms/hands.

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    Re: (Offseason Topic)- Why do we teach our kids "this" about trash talking in sports?

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaJama17 View Post
    I never have gotten why a sport (in which only the goaltender can use their hands) that consist mainly of people running around on the field chasing a soccer ball can result in so many fights. Itís not like football or hockey where you have to play with a mean streak or even basketball where fouls happen because of the contact with your arms/hands.
    Because soccer has no real break in the action to cool off. Its basically one huge play that frustrations continue to build. Football has breaks in the violence and is easier to control because everyone is within a 20 yard span mostly. You mention hockey, but its the same issue just with sticks and ice.

    But if you want a real sport then try rugby. soccer mixed with football with less protection. A cardiologist and an orthopedic surgeon's worst nightmare
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    Re: (Offseason Topic)- Why do we teach our kids "this" about trash talking in sports?

    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    Because soccer has no real break in the action to cool off. Its basically one huge play that frustrations continue to build. Football has breaks in the violence and is easier to control because everyone is within a 20 yard span mostly. You mention hockey, but its the same issue just with sticks and ice. But if you want a real sport then try rugby. soccer mixed with football with less protection.
    Yeah I guess I can see that. Also a lot of cheap shots can happen, many times between players who arenít even around the ball, to because of only one ref present. My younger brother used to play soccer and I saw it happen all the time. In foreign countries though the refs can get beaten to death if not killed especially in South America

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    Re: (Offseason Topic)- Why do we teach our kids "this" about trash talking in sports?

    Interesting this thread is on the same page as one about one of our players saying he hates Clemson.


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    Re: (Offseason Topic)- Why do we teach our kids "this" about trash talking in sports?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson1967 View Post
    Interesting this thread is on the same page as one about one of our players saying he hates Clemson.


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    Re: (Offseason Topic)- Why do we teach our kids "this" about trash talking in sports?

    Quote Originally Posted by FThomas View Post
    I am not sure that trash talking is a new phenomena. and what is considered trash talk anyway... is yelling "swing batter" trash talking... is directly quoting a Peanuts comic strip from the 50s/60s saying "you hit like my grandmother" as the batter is at the plate... is that trash talking? Is any of that really new? Was the trash talking back in the Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth days a "sign of the age"; what about "Billy Martin" or Reggie Jackson? I am all for remembering the halcyon days of youth, but with time those memories become a bit blurrier and folks don't always have perfect recall of the trash talking that was utilized and even appeared in children's comic strips (arguably what is considered the most wholesome comic ever).
    Trash talking is definitely not new and I don't think anyone is saying that. I'm just wondering why as parents of youth who participate in sports that we are so hell bent on teaching kids sportsmanship and respecting their opponents. That we then turnaround and abruptly insert a caveat saying "Well, as long as you can back it up it is completely okay not to respect your opponents and not to show good sportsmanship."

    And yes, what trash talk looks like isn't the same for everyone. That's what makes it so difficult at times in sporting events. When you have people involved nothing is ever simple. But rather, quite complex.
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    Re: (Offseason Topic)- Why do we teach our kids "this" about trash talking in sports?

    Like CPB used to say.........if you got class it's gonna show. IMO, that's what we should we teaching our kids. Still relevant today.
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    Re: (Offseason Topic)- Why do we teach our kids "this" about trash talking in sports?

    This definitely belongs in this thread.

    This past weekend my 11 yr old played in a state tournament (baseball) and in two of the games, we had to deal with the topic being discussed in this thread.


    Game 1- Opposing teams' players hair is literally dyed green and blue, each player has individualized "walk up" music to the plate. Each time one of their players makes a good play, gets a good hit etc., they make taunting gestures toward our players/dugout (i.e. flexing muscles, Clark Kent "superman" thing where they act like they're tearing off shirt to reveal superman suit). Their fans begin to get caught up in the bullcrap and it begins to escalate outside the chain link fence of the baseball field. Our players are also starting to get ticked off as well from junk being said to them by the opposing players. Not one time did the umpire call time out, call the head coaches together and try to stomp it out. Ultimately we beat them, soundly, and all of a sudden the dyed green blue hair wasn't so cool anymore, the walk up music stopped playing and the bush league taunting from the fans and the players stopped.

    Game 2- Not quite as bad as the first game but ran into a team with more bush league taunting gestures after almost every successful thing they did. . We lose the game and when the final out was made, a fight almost breaks out between their catcher and our last batter who struck out to end the game. After the last out the loud mouth catcher who'd been chirping the entire game made it a point to say something smart to our batter as he was trying to walk back to the dugout after striking out. My guess our batter had his fill on the chirping the entire game and figured "Well hell, the game's over might as well get my .02 in."


    I'm sitting there in the stands watching it and nothing about what I'm seeing is productive, nothing. These are kids, very impressionable kids who will one day be adults. Yet I've sat at these youth league sporting events going on three years now and am seeing more and more of the mess that I've described above. The blame goes on the adults, not the kids. We are teaching our kids to have ZERO respect for their opponents and ultimately other people. Our coach was talking to me about it after the games and said he'd mentioned it a couple of times to the umpires in between innings, without any success. That tells me this type bush league behavior has become accepted as "okay" within youth sports. Yet we wonder why our young people are the way they are...
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