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    Re: Georgia To Name Field At Sanford Stadium After Former Coach Vince Dooley

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    Re: Georgia To Name Field At Sanford Stadium After Former Coach Vince Dooley

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    Say it again louder, for the Georgia fans in the back pretending they didn't hear it.
    That was the only reason I posted it - I wasn't countering Selma...

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    Re: Georgia To Name Field At Sanford Stadium After Former Coach Vince Dooley

    The three things I always hear from UGA fans is Dooley is the GOAT , Herschel was the best player to play football, and the Varsity is the best place on the planet.

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    Re: Georgia To Name Field At Sanford Stadium After Former Coach Vince Dooley

    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    The three things I always hear from UGA fans is Dooley is the GOAT , Herschel was the best player to play football, and the Varsity is the best place on the planet.
    They're nuts on number one, and I've never been to number three........but they have a point on #2, and I'm not totally convinced they're wrong, either.

    There are very few transcendent CFB players, guys who you hear/know about anywhere in the country and know who he plays for and his position (Notre Dame back in the early TV days excepted).
    Guys you just say ONE name and EVERYONE knows.

    Herschel
    Bo
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    I'm a full-fledged member of 92tide's "Let's Hate On UGA" Club, but I'm not convinced they're wrong when it comes to Mr Walker.
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    Re: Georgia To Name Field At Sanford Stadium After Former Coach Vince Dooley

    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    the Varsity is the best place on the planet.
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    Re: Georgia To Name Field At Sanford Stadium After Former Coach Vince Dooley

    Quote Originally Posted by selmaborntidefan View Post
    They're nuts on number one, and I've never been to number three........but they have a point on #2, and I'm not totally convinced they're wrong, either.
    Bo was the single best athlete I've ever seen.
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    Re: Georgia To Name Field At Sanford Stadium After Former Coach Vince Dooley

    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    The three things I always hear from UGA fans is Dooley is the GOAT , Herschel was the best player to play football, and the Varsity is the best place on the planet.
    and they are 100% wrong on all 3.

    when I moved to Georgia people kept talking about The Varsity. I asked "what is the varsity?". Immediately "I had to go". I went took my first bite and said this is meh and there are tons of places better. I said this very loud and the whole place got quiet and everyone was then staring at me. I have lived in the Atlanta area for 21 years. I have been to The Varsity a grand total of 4 times (once to the Kennesaw location). All 4 times it was not my call and all 4 times I wanted my money back.
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    Re: Georgia To Name Field At Sanford Stadium After Former Coach Vince Dooley

    Quote Originally Posted by Bama63 View Post
    If I'm remembering right, Dooley was right at the top in his day, and he well deserves this.
    Yes and no, though as I've said, I can see the "deserves" part.

    Let's consider some contemporaries of Mr Dooley:

    Charles McClendon (Cholly Mac) - A reminder that Dooley had a .715 winning pct for his entire career of 25 seasons. Mac had a winning pct of .692 during his 18 seasons at LSU. But Mac had to face Coach Bryant every single year. Mac was 2-14 against Bryant, Dooley was 2-4. Simply take away having to play Alabama every single year from 1964-1979 and Mac's winning percentage jumps to .740.

    If Vince Dooley had not benefited from the "cooldown period" following the allegations of a fix in 1962.....if he plays Bryant every year......he gets fired because "he can't beat Alabama." (And Cholly Mac pointed out he's the only former Bryant assistant who ever beat him twice).

    Most folks today have never even heard of Cholly Mac. They have no idea who he was or how good he truly was. Most LSU fans have forgotten him as well.


    Johnny Majors - Majors's record is substantially worse than Dooley's (.645). He also took over the Vols because Bill Battle got fired because (wait for it) he couldn't beat Coach Bryant. Majors played Alabama every single year he coached at Tennessee and wound up going 4-12 against the Tide (and all four wins were narrow Vols escapes that easily could have gone the other way).

    Oh.....and who did Majors beat to win the same number of national championships Dooley had? Why, Vince Dooley himself. Dooley went 3-0 against Majors......two of those being the Herschel Walker years.....when it was UGA-Tennessee. But a reasonable argument could be made that Majors was actually the better coach. Majors's career numbers are held down because: a) he began at Iowa St and had some lean years; and b) he came back later on a second run at Pitt and wasn't very good.

    Pat Dye - I not only think Dye is a better coach than Dooley, I think he's a MUCH better coach than Dooley. For starters, Dye was 6-3 against Dooley head to head and (key point here) TWO of his three losses came when: a) Dooley had Walker; b) Auburn was coming off probation. Dye's Auburn career pct is .711 vs Dooley's .715. When you consider Dye won six of nine games, this "almost even" record against balances out. Remember - Dye (unlike Dooley) played Alabama every single year and went 6-6 (Dooley 2-4). Yes, Dooley has a national title and Dye doesn't but only because Auburn got jobbed in 1983. (Go back and look at that 1980 UGA schedule and subtract Notre Dame - it makes BYU's 1984 schedule look like an NFL experience by comparison).

    What's bizarre is that Auburn "lucked into" Pat Dye because......Vince Dooley turned them down!!!! Dye was one of many names in the coaching search, and he even resigned his other job (he'd only been at Wyoming for a year) after being threatened by the school President but before he even had the Auburn job offer. Dye won 4 SEC titles to Dooley's 6, but he also only coached less than 1/2 as long, too.

    Some folks may mention Johnny Vaught, but I think he's an overrated "legend" whose entire reputation is based upon not having to play Alabama. Go look at his record prior to 1964. It's sensational. But then the conference forces Alabama and Ole Miss to play every year, he goes 2-6 against Alabama, and WHOEVER is to blame (the admin, Vaught, whoever)........Alabama makes civil rights progress, Ole Miss resists, and the rest is ancient history (coinciding not so much with 1964).

    One final note: Dooley also benefited from Ga Tech leaving the SEC right about the time he became a head coach. I realize he's not to blame for circumstances, but they must also be taken into account when analyzing these things. (Hank Aaron didn't get stronger as he hit his mid-30s....he moved from a pitcher's park in Milwaukee to the easiest home run park in MLB. It doesn't diminish Hank to admit that fact - it simply sets his accomplishments on a more accurate field of evaluation). The same is true with Mr Dooley.
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    Re: Georgia To Name Field At Sanford Stadium After Former Coach Vince Dooley

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonaudio View Post
    Bo was the single best athlete I've ever seen.
    No denying that.


    And Herschel wasn't bad. He was in the bobsled in the 1992 Olympics - which when you consider how few bobsleds there are in Georgia.......

    Bo was something else, though. He went buck hunting and shot a deer so big it got him in the paper.
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    Re: Georgia To Name Field At Sanford Stadium After Former Coach Vince Dooley

    Quote Originally Posted by DzynKingRTR View Post
    and they are 100% wrong on all 3.

    when I moved to Georgia people kept talking about The Varsity. I asked "what is the varsity?". Immediately "I had to go". I went took my first bite and said this is meh and there are tons of places better. I said this very loud and the whole place got quiet and everyone was then staring at me. I have lived in the Atlanta area for 21 years. I have been to The Varsity a grand total of 4 times (once to the Kennesaw location). All 4 times it was not my call and all 4 times I wanted my money back.
    i wish i could remember the name of the old choke and puke diner next door to the varsity (tuscaloosa bar) on the strip in the 80s. the varsity (jawjuh hot dog joint) makes that place look like a michelin 2-star establishment.
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    Re: Georgia To Name Field At Sanford Stadium After Former Coach Vince Dooley

    Sometimes you just have to settle for naming the field after the coach.

    If awbern had added Pat to the stadium name...you would now have Jordan-Hare-Dye Stadium...
    Last edited by NoNC4Tubs; May 6th, 2019 at 01:02 PM.

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    Re: Georgia To Name Field At Sanford Stadium After Former Coach Vince Dooley

    Quote Originally Posted by DzynKingRTR View Post
    when I moved to Georgia people kept talking about The Varsity. I asked "what is the varsity?". Immediately "I had to go". I went took my first bite and said this is meh and there are tons of places better. I said this very loud and the whole place got quiet and everyone was then staring at me. I have lived in the Atlanta area for 21 years. I have been to The Varsity a grand total of 4 times (once to the Kennesaw location). All 4 times it was not my call and all 4 times I wanted my money back.
    Like everything else Jawjuh, they live on the murky memories of something was supposedly grand.



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    Re: Georgia To Name Field At Sanford Stadium After Former Coach Vince Dooley

    Loading chili and cole slaw on burgers, chicken,and hotdogs doesnít hide how bad it is.... it just amplifies it.

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