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    Re: Jarrett Stidham Hurt His Stock at Auburn

    Lombardi makes a very valid point indeed...

    The only talent that Gus gets at QB has always been a proven transfer into the program. Nix is a legacy, so whatever he does doesn't count. He would have gone to au if PeeWee Herman were the coach and gotten equal NFL development...

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    Re: Jarrett Stidham Hurt His Stock at Auburn

    Auburn fans and Alabama fans have different priorities.

    Auburn's year is made if they beat Alabama. Period. Gus got an extension because he has found intermittent success with this. NFL preparation and college championships are of less importance.

    Alabama fans take pride in Coach Saban's NFL style of preparation and gameplay, which often lead to championships. The Auburn game is simply a hurdle to get to our real goal.

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    Re: Jarrett Stidham Hurt His Stock at Auburn

    Auburn's offense is a bunch of dumb crap and gadgets built for one purpose: to try to fluster Alabama's defense because of its pure stupidity leading to busts.
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    Re: Jarrett Stidham Hurt His Stock at Auburn

    Auburn can't quite match Alabama for whole team-on-team athleticism. But they do have some exceptional athletes, like that soph receiver who is supposed to be the fastest player in football.

    Malzahn sets up misdirection to very slightly slow down defenses. He keeps his play design ultra-simple so that players can make the read as fast as possible. This explains his 3-way option play, with 2 crossers intersecting with an upfield RB with the QB reading a jet sweep toss, the inside run or the QB keeper. This was basically Malzahn's only play for Nick Marshall.

    This stunt/one-trick-pony in no way prepares QBs for the pros.

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    Re: Jarrett Stidham Hurt His Stock at Auburn

    GM is a very good recruiter -- and offensive coach when you allow his OL to block 5 yards downfield -- as has been proven ad nauseum. Given AU's "resources" he will always have good athletes -- even Tater Tot and Doug Barfield could do that. However, putting out a product that competes year in and out for the SEC...that plays on a championship level every single year??? Not on your life...the next QB he teaches how to read a defensive backfield will be the first.
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    Re: Jarrett Stidham Hurt His Stock at Auburn

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    Re: Jarrett Stidham Hurt His Stock at Auburn

    Quote Originally Posted by selmaborntidefan View Post
    Gus Malzahn draws up plays in study hall that no self-respecting coach would use in a backyard Sunday afternoon flag football game.......and then runs them in SEC "must win" games with mixed results.

    I realize he hit that play for a TD on us - but a reminder that Saban said very clearly we knew what play was coming but the players didn't do what they knew to do (a point he's been making since spring ball began and esp last week).

    However.....it's not "really" Malzahn's job to prepare these guys for the NFL. When the NFL wants to pay college football players as a farm system, they have the right to complain. Until then, they can all shut up.

    Malzahn's job is to win games at Auburn. If he happens to prep guys for the NFL, that's a happy side effect for someone else.
    Gus does win games at Auburn, but guys looking to make it in the Pros should look elsewhere. Gus's offense would have worked well with Jalen Hurts. It worked with Scam Newton.
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    Re: Jarrett Stidham Hurt His Stock at Auburn

    Cam Newton's success was in spite of him spending 4 months at Auburn, not because of it. The offense is great for an athletic QB who would otherwise not play at the college level and who mostly just wants to win games and get a degree. If you have NFL aspirations you're a stone cold moron to choose Auburn as long as Gus is there. I don't know who was advising Sitham. and I feel like current legacy freshman QB may not have been served by living out his dad's dream.
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    Re: Jarrett Stidham Hurt His Stock at Auburn

    An occasional trick play may catch the defense off guard. An offensive scheme based on trickeration simply means you know you can't compete with the best teams.
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    Re: Jarrett Stidham Hurt His Stock at Auburn

    Auburn under Malzahn (HC or OC) has only beat Alabama when they got a great game out of their defense. Their second half in 2010, the successive 4th quarter 3rd/4th down stops in 2013, and the complete shutdown of our offense in 2017.


    Their offense is not that great. It only stands a chance of being enough to win if they get an above average game from their defense so that a few gadgets can actually make a winning difference instead of just saving face from avoiding getting skunked.
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    Re: Jarrett Stidham Hurt His Stock at Auburn

    The problem was that Stidham is nowhere the athlete that $Cam or Marshall was they also had by far much better O-Lines protecting them. He caught Alabama in a bad night in Ď17 but look at what happened to him in Ď18.

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    Re: Jarrett Stidham Hurt His Stock at Auburn

    Without a solid RB1, Gusís offense wonít work with a QB like Stidham. Kerryon made defenses respect the run. Auburn didnít have that in 2018.

    IOW, Gusís offense needs a few things to work well:

    1. Dynamic QB
    2. Experienced OL
    3. Solid RB

    Obviously those things can be said about any offense, but Gusís offense seems to need that combination more than others in order to be successful.


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    Re: Jarrett Stidham Hurt His Stock at Auburn

    Quote Originally Posted by RTR91 View Post
    Without a solid RB1, Gusís offense wonít work with a QB like Stidham. Kerryon made defenses respect the run. Auburn didnít have that in 2018.

    IOW, Gusís offense needs a few things to work well:

    1. Dynamic QB
    2. Experienced OL
    3. Solid RB

    Obviously those things can be said about any offense, but Gusís offense seems to need that combination more than others in order to be successful.


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    So the question is: Do they have all three of those components this year?

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