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    Re: 75th anniversary of D-Day...

    I hate to jump ahead, but I remember that the Germans damaged the Cherbourg harbor so badly it wasn't usable until into August. With one fabricated harbor out of commission, how did we get enough supplies in until Cherbourg could be repaired? That, I don't remember...
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    Re: 75th anniversary of D-Day...

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    Wow! Absolutely amazing photo.

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    Re: 75th anniversary of D-Day...

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    I hate to jump ahead, but I remember that the Germans damaged the Cherbourg harbor so badly it wasn't usable until into August. With one fabricated harbor out of commission, how did we get enough supplies in until Cherbourg could be repaired? That, I don't remember...
    PLUTO and driving LSTs right up onto shore at high tide and off-loading directly onto the beach.
    Both Mulberries were damaged, but they scavanged enough from Omaha and dragged them over to Gold to keep Gold open.

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    Re: 75th anniversary of D-Day...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tidewater View Post
    PLUTO and driving LSTs right up onto shore at high tide and off-loading directly onto the beach.
    Both Mulberries were damaged, but they scavanged enough from Omaha and dragged them over to Gold to keep Gold open.

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    LSTs on Omaha
    I did a little research and taking weeks to reopen Cherbourg did cause us to have to ration ammo at one point. SPOILER - here is an excellent account of the battle for Cherbourg. However, it starts before where Brad's installment is presently and continues to the end of the battle, so it's a non-read, if you prefer to follow the action day by day with Brad...

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    June 24, 1944: it's Saturday and in Cherbourg, the troops of the US VII Corps continue their progress - slow and bloody - and the German defenses fall one by one. The German garrison commander, General Schlieben, refuses to surrender and the destruction of the deep water harbor of Cherbourg by the German soldiers begins in earnest and according to the Allied observers it will take several weeks to repair the harbors once the city liberated by the Americans.

    The British and the Canadians stop for a few hours while pressing west of Caen in order to be supplied and reinforced by freshly-landed troops, most of them coming from Arromanches after the end of the storm in the English Channel (the storm which destroyed the artificial harbor of Saint-Laurent-sur-Mer). Operation Epsom, planned by Montgomery, has to begin tomorrow - nearly 60,000 men are held ready to launch the offensive towards the Odon river.

    Above France, more than 200 USAAF transports fly supply missions from the UK. US 8th Air Force attacks airfields and transportation lines with 334 bombers escorted by 288 fighters and attacks V-weapons sites and other targets with 163 bombers escorted by 118 fighters. US 9th Air Force attacks V-weapons sites, transportation lines, and other targets with fighters and bombers. RAF Bomber Command sends 321 aircraft to attack V-weapons sites during the day and 739 aircraft to attack V-weapons sites overnight.

    Over Germany, US 8th Air Force attacks Bremen with 317 bombers and RAF Bomber Command sends 27 aircraft to attack Berlin overnight.

    On the eastern front, the 1st Belorussian Front joins the offensive against German Army Group Center, launching a two-pronged assault aimed at the encirclement of Bobruisk. Red Army forces have now advanced as much as 25 miles and the Orsha-Vitebsk rail line is cut. Elements of the 1st Baltic Front and 3rd Belorussian Front are threatening to encircle the German 53rd Corps (part of 3rd Panzer Army) at Vitebsk. Orsha, to the south, is also threatened. The 2nd Belorussian Front presses on Mogilev.

    In Italy, British 8th Army conducts major attacks against strong resistance around Vaiano, Chiusi, and Magione. US 5th Army, advancing slowly, captures Follonica. US 12th Air Force conducts limited attacks due to poor weather conditions.

    Pictured: View of the town of Valognes, devastated by Allied bombing during the Cherbourg battle, June 24, 1944; note jeep 'Always Ruth' in foreground; US 79th infantry troops in fierce street fighting; US 8th Air Force bomber over Germany, June 24, 1944; Aerial reconnaissance photograph of Majdanek Concentration Camp, Lublin, Poland, June 24, 1944

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    Re: 75th anniversary of D-Day...

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    I did a little research and taking weeks to reopen Cherbourg did cause us to have to ration ammo at one point. SPOILER - here is an excellent account of the battle for Cherbourg. However, it starts before where Brad's installment is presently and continues to the end of the battle, so it's a non-read, if you prefer to follow the action day by day with Brad...

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    At least he had plenty of ammunition for immediate needs, and the German Navy tried to help out, delivering supplies by E-boat and U-boat, while the Luftwaffe used 107 transport planes to drop 188 tons of supplies into the besieged perimeter.
    First, E-boats and U-boats are not exactly the most efficient way to get supplies ot a surrounded army unit. I am amazed they tried.
    Second, I was unaware that the Luftwaffe could muster 107 Ju-52s (I assume they used Ju-52s) by June 1944 and I am stunned, given Allied air supremacy that month, that they tried and actually got through.
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    Re: 75th anniversary of D-Day...

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    That is one heck of a cook-off.

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    June 25, 1944: Operation Epsom begins (aka the First Battle of the Odon). The British, stalemated by the Germans and therefore behind schedule since June 18th, attack the German defenses manned by the Hitlerjugend division. 60,000 Canadians and British and 600 tanks begin the attack, divided into an armored division and two independent armored brigades (8th Corps). General Montgomery plans circumvent the town of Caen from the west and to attack the city from the south. The 49th British Infantry division (West Riding) attacks Fontenay but in the outskirts the Panzer Lehr stops them cold. The village of Rauray, located southwest of Tilly, is strongly defended by the 1st SS Armored Corps who battle ferociously for control of the area. The fanatical Hitler Youth fight until death, and the losses are high on both sides of the front.

    In Cherbourg, the US forces continue to press forward, slowly but systematically destroying the layered German defenses and are now less than two miles from the heart of the scarred city. Knowing the city is doomed to fall to the Americans, the first German attempts to flee by sea from the city are destroyed by the British light coastal forces. The US and Royal navies (3 battleships, 4 cruisers, and 11 destroyers) begin the Bombardment of Cherbourg, attacking German fortifications near and in the city, engaged in duels with the German casemates batteries, and providing close infantry support. The combined navies' heavy guns neutralize twenty-two of twenty-four assigned battery targets - though none are destroyed, they are eliminated as a threat and taken by US forces. In response to message from General Schlieben in Cherbourg, Rommel replies: In accordance with the Fuehrer's orders you are to hold out to the last round.

    Over France, RAF Bomber Command sends 323 aircraft to attack V-weapons sites during the day. US 8th Air Force attacks airfields and widely scattered targets with 500 bombers. US 9th Air Force attacks widely scattered targets with fighters and bombers. Overnight, US 8th Air Force attacks targets around Paris with 429 bombers and utilizes 176 B-17 bombers to drop supplies to French Resistance forces.

    Following a visit to British No. 617 Squadron at Woodhall Spa in England, United Kingdom by USAAF Generals Carl Spaatz and James Doolittle, a crated Mustang fighter is delivered as a gift from the United States to Wing Commander Leonard Cheshire. Cheshire wants to use it that evening for a raid on the V-bomb site at Siracourt, France, and his mechanics work all day removing the grease and the guns. One hour after the Lancaster bombers take off Cheshire follows in the Mustang fighter (which type he had never flown before) and he arrives in time to mark the target at low level for the heavy bombers.

    On the eastern front, the Red Army attacks on the forces of German Army Group Center continue. Soviet 1st Baltic Front and 3rd Belorussian Front complete the encirclement of Vitebsk. The German 53rd Corps (part of 3rd Panzer Army) is now trapped with 5 divisions. Other forces of 1st Baltic Front cross the Dvina River; other elements of 3rd Belorussian front approach Orsha. Forces of 2nd Belorussian Front continue to attack around Mogilev, clearing the city. The German 4th Army is being forced back. The attacks of 1st Belorussian Fronts threaten to encircle Bobruisk, trapping elements of German 9th Army.

    In Italy, elements of US 5th Army capture Piombino. Inland the French Expeditionary Corps (part of 5th Army) and the British 8th Army attack the German-held Albert Line west of Trasimeno Lake, around Chiusi. US 12th Air Force conducts limited attacks in poor weather.

    Pictured: British garrison of a QF 6-pounder pass near destroyed Panther 8.5 miles west of Caen.; Cruiser HMS Belfast bombarding German positions off Normandy, early morning June 25, 1944; A heavy German coast artillery shell fell between Texas (background) and Arkansas (foreground) off Cherbourg, France, June 24, 1944; US troops move through the streets of Cherbourg

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    Re: 75th anniversary of D-Day...

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonaudio View Post
    Well, I guess it wasn't a dud after all...
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    Well, I guess it wasn't a dud after all...
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    Re: 75th anniversary of D-Day...

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonaudio View Post
    "Set the delay for what?"
    The term Delay reminds me of a story from my Dad who manned a 155 MM "Long Tom". Obviously they would do a lot of night firing against German supply lines and fortified positions. He recalled a firing mission that required a 4 second fuse that ultimately was miss-set as a 1/4 sec. fuse. The round went off as it exited the barrel which would be quite a memorable event to say the least.

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    Re: 75th anniversary of D-Day...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tidewater View Post
    First, E-boats and U-boats are not exactly the most efficient way to get supplies ot a surrounded army unit. I am amazed they tried.
    Second, I was unaware that the Luftwaffe could muster 107 Ju-52s (I assume they used Ju-52s) by June 1944 and I am stunned, given Allied air supremacy that month, that they tried and actually got through.
    Did you read the link I posted? They delivered them.....iron crosses...
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