A lot of folks would say Saban quit on the Dolphins, too - fwiw.He quit on his team
A lot of folks would say Saban quit on the Dolphins, too - fwiw.He quit on his team
It's still an excuse.Sounds like stuff you’d hear about the Shula transition. In other words, sounds like it might be getting worse before it gets better with the next coach.
Maybe Willie can find a generational talent at QB like Chizik did. It's a stretch to include Chizik when the circumstances there were anything but normal.It's still an excuse.
Gene Chizik inherited a 5-7 football team playing in a MUCH tougher conference than Taggart is - and won a national title his second year there.
Butch Davis inherited a probation-riddled train wreck at Miami. They went 9-3 his second year and beat two ranked teams.
Pat Dye inherited a 5-6 probation-riddled mess at Auburn in 1980 and had them in a toe-to-toe slugfest with #1 Georgia his second year and a title contender his third.
Bob Stoops inherited a train wreck that had been in the doldrums most of a decade - and won a national title his second year.
Brian Kelly inherited an absolute disaster of a program that had spent most of the previous decade-plus wandering in the wilderness - and had them in the title game in three years.
Tom Herman inherited a terrible situation and in his second year played for the Big 12 title and beat one of the nation's five best teams in the Sugar Bowl. (Yeah, we can say Georgia didn't want to be there, but Texas still had to win the game).
Terry Bowden inherited a mess at Auburn, too - and won his first twenty games.
Dan Mullen inherited a complete disaster at Miss St (29-65 from 2001-2008, with ONE winning season) and was 9-4 his second year and massacred a Michigan team on whom most of his own players would be second-string.
Taggart inherited a program that in the eight years before he got hired went 83-23 and won a national title.
NONE of these other coaches inherited that good a situation.
So I don't want to hear it.
Exactly.Maybe Willie can find a generational talent at QB like Chizik did. It's a stretch to include Chizik when the circumstances there were anything but normal.
Can't help but notice most of your list is second year. Not saying Taggart is going to win a title this year, but it is his second year.
Nah.He quit on his team
Fisher was actually forced out by FSU because of something that he said or did say on one of his talk shows the week before the Florida game if memory serves me correctly. I think they knew they burned a bridge by not upgrading after years of him begging and knew aTm was calling with oil money so they tried to save face by forcing a bogus ultimatum.Nah.
Steve Spurrier quit on his team (South Carolina). Bobby Petrino quit on the Atlanta Falcons. Fisher may have left before he said he would, but he at least finished the season.
I think his point was that all of them inherited bigger messes but didn’t cry about the messes they had to clean up.Maybe Willie can find a generational talent at QB like Chizik did. It's a stretch to include Chizik when the circumstances there were anything but normal.
Can't help but notice most of your list is second year. Not saying Taggart is going to win a title this year, but it is his second year.
Yeah... He didn't quit like the guys 08 listed, but he quit in every other sense of the word. IIRC, FSU reporters said he had quit recruiting midseason.Fisher was actually forced out by FSU because of something that he said or did say on one of his talk shows the week before the Florida game if memory serves me correctly. I think they knew they burned a bridge by not upgrading after years of him begging and knew aTm was calling with oil money so they tried to save face by forcing a bogus ultimatum.
I don't know all the details, but I know these. One of my co-workers is a cousin of one of the assistants on FSU.Fisher was actually forced out by FSU because of something that he said or did say on one of his talk shows the week before the Florida game if memory serves me correctly. I think they knew they burned a bridge by not upgrading after years of him begging and knew aTm was calling with oil money so they tried to save face by forcing a bogus ultimatum.
Indeed that is the takeaway here. Fisher may well have allowed FSU to fall apart. But Taggart seems completely incapable of rebuilding it. What went on last year was a weekly calamity. FSU probably should have been at least 8-4 on talent alone under a competent staff.The fact this is the mindset around Tallahassee should bring joy to Clemson lurkers or anyone else with FSU on the schedule over the next 3-5 years.
How does another school's band help them with recruiting football players?FSU has a built in recruiting advantage having a HBCU, FAMU, right in the same city. Its one of the first places they take some of the recruits especially if the band is performing.
Exactly. I can't stand that crybaby Taggart, and I hope he goes 0-12 this year.I think his point was that all of them inherited bigger messes but didn’t cry about the messes they had to clean up.
The campuses are on hills separated by a small valley and a series of train tracks. FAMU offers a rich social and cultural life for FSU athletes, much like Tuskegee gives Auburn’s African American players a reprieve from one of the whitest public universities in the South.How does another school's band help them with recruiting football players?
I guess it's too much to ask that they focus on football and academics.The campuses are on hills separated by a small valley and a series of train tracks. FAMU offers a rich social and cultural life for FSU athletes, much like Tuskegee gives Auburn’s African American players a reprieve from one of the whitest public universities in the South.