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    Re: DNC debates - July 30, 31, 2019 - Schedule info and discussion thread

    Not until they cut ALL waste and fraud. Stop acting like our tax dollars are their's to spend any way they want. If they want to fly home every weekend they can do it on their dime. Have the same type of heath care coverage the average American has. Cut all unnecessary jobs/depts in the government. Do everything possible before you even consider raising taxes then we can talk.
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    what if raising taxes is the best thing for the country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toddrn View Post
    Not until they cut ALL waste and fraud. Stop acting like our tax dollars are their's to spend any way they want. If they want to fly home every weekend they can do it on their dime. Have the same type of heath care coverage the average American has. Cut all unnecessary jobs/depts in the government. Do everything possible before you even consider raising taxes then we can talk.
    That's a safe cop out

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    So you are OK with the government wasting tax dollars and continuing to raise taxes? They have already proven that throwing more money at a problem without actually trying to solve the problem doesn't work.
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    That's a safe cop out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toddrn View Post
    So you are OK with the government wasting tax dollars and continuing to raise taxes? They have already proven that throwing more money at a problem without actually trying to solve the problem doesn't work.
    IMHO, this is a no-win argument.

    One side says we need to cut waste and the other says we should spend more money.

    Meanwhile the bandwidth get royally abused.....lol......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toddrn View Post
    So you are OK with the government wasting tax dollars and continuing to raise taxes? They have already proven that throwing more money at a problem without actually trying to solve the problem doesn't work.
    Actually, he was pointing out that you oppose any tax increase, as it is impossible to eliminate all waste and fraud.

    I agree that government spending needs to be curtailed. But it's silly to think that we'll be able to dig ourselves out of our current hole without increases to revenue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toddrn View Post
    So you are OK with the government wasting tax dollars and continuing to raise taxes? They have already proven that throwing more money at a problem without actually trying to solve the problem doesn't work.
    I never said or implied that.

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    Re: DNC debates - July 30, 31, 2019 - Schedule info and discussion thread

    For every Len Burman that thinks a flat rate tax is regressive you have a Steve Forbes That thinks it would be effective. Do you think it would be regressive because it would produce less revenue for our government to waste, produce a hardship on some individuals because it would change write offs, tax the rich that don't pay taxes, or be a career changer for some individuals?

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    Re: DNC debates - July 30, 31, 2019 - Schedule info and discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Moro Creek View Post
    For every Len Burman that thinks a flat rate tax is regressive you have a Steve Forbes That thinks it would be effective. Do you think it would be regressive because it would produce less revenue for our government to waste, produce a hardship on some individuals because it would change write offs, tax the rich that don't pay taxes, or be a career changer for some individuals?
    Um, you seem to be unaware the "regressive tax" has an accepted definition - from Dictionary.com:

    A tax that takes a higher percentage of low incomes than high ones. Sales taxes, especially on food, clothing, medicine, and other basic necessities are widely cited as examples of regressive taxes. (Compare progressive tax.)
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    Re: DNC debates - July 30, 31, 2019 - Schedule info and discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Moro Creek View Post
    For every Len Burman that thinks a flat rate tax is regressive you have a Steve Forbes That thinks it would be effective. Do you think it would be regressive because it would produce less revenue for our government to waste, produce a hardship on some individuals because it would change write offs, tax the rich that don't pay taxes, or be a career changer for some individuals?
    Do you think limiting revenue would limit waste? People need to wake up and realize revenue now has very little effect on spending. The last 35 years has proven that.

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    I agree that this is a no win argument. We must cut spending and waste, balance the budget and then any increase in taxes should go to debt payoff. If we are going to dig out of this huge whole that has been created we are going to have to make some really hard decisions that will affect every person not just the so-called rich.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bazza View Post
    IMHO, this is a no-win argument.

    One side says we need to cut waste and the other says we should spend more money.

    Meanwhile the bandwidth get royally abused.....lol......

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    So you are OK with the government wasting tax dollars and continuing to raise taxes? They have already proven that throwing more money at a problem without actually trying to solve the
    problem doesn't work.


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    Re: DNC debates - July 30, 31, 2019 - Schedule info and discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Toddrn View Post
    I agree that this is a no win argument. We must cut spending and waste, balance the budget and then any increase in taxes should go to debt payoff. If we are going to dig out of this huge whole that has been created we are going to have to make some really hard decisions that will affect every person not just the so-called rich.
    After all, austerity economics has worked out so well for everyone who has used it...
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