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    Re: The University of Alabama and changing times

    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    Not really. Tuscaloosa is everything you hate about the bad parts of Birmingham. The University might as well be its own city because too many people only associate Tuscaloosa with the university. If people just read or watch the Alabama news organizations then they would see daily reports of crime and violence in this "sleepy little town". Sure 1/3 of the population is students, but the median income for the rest of those folks is 27k a year.

    Basically Tuscaloosa is a city that is trying to get out of crime and poverty, and a greedy university that is trying to suck every last dollar out of anyone that steps on their grass. I got my degree there recently, and the less time im in that city the better. Really, if I wasn't getting paid to help out during the home games, to see a friend that still lives there once in a while, or catch a must see in person football or softball game then I couldn't care less if I ever go to Tuscaloosa ever again.
    Pretty much how I feel also. I romanticize often about the great times, places, and people I shared those days with as an undergraduate in Tuscaloosa. It was one of the most enjoyable times of my life, but it was a different time and place and most of those people I have never seen since graduation. The University of Alabama in my heart and memory no longer exists, that, to me, is sad, but it is life. We have friends in Tuscaloosa that we visit each fall when we attend the once a year game. I always look forward to that trip, but know I will be disappointed with what the University has become and, the total commercialization of the "game day experience". On our Sunday drive home after the game, I always ask my wife, "why in the hell do we do this every year knowing how we will feel for weeks after the trip". Maybe some day I will finally accept the fact that "you can never go home again".
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    Re: The University of Alabama and changing times

    Can some one please post a link showing that children of congress can discharge student loans by bankruptcy. I am skeptical.

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    Re: The University of Alabama and changing times

    Quote Originally Posted by seebell View Post
    Can some one please post a link showing that children of congress can discharge student loans by bankruptcy. I am skeptical.
    It is more misinformation from FB-

    https://www.factcheck.org/2011/01/co...student-loans/

    Anyone can discharge student loans after being in repayment for 7 years. You have to prove it causes “undo hardship.” Yeah, good luck with that. In other words, you don’t stand a snowball’s chance getting them discharged.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfri...student-loans/


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    Re: The University of Alabama and changing times

    Quote Originally Posted by seebell View Post
    Can some one please post a link showing that children of congress can discharge student loans by bankruptcy. I am skeptical.
    they cannot.

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    Re: The University of Alabama and changing times

    Quote Originally Posted by rolltide_21 View Post
    It is more misinformation from FB
    like so many of these things, it started as a lie on fox news and spread from there.

    The confusion appears to stem from remarks Fox News political contributor Dick Morris made Aug. 23, 2010, (a Monday) on "The Sean Hannity Show." Morris misrepresented the student loan repayment program, and then his comment was further distorted by the viral e-mail and those who passed it along as fact.....

    Morris: Do you know — my wife Eileen just told me yesterday that staff in the House of Representatives and in the Senate do not pay student loans back? The government pays it for them?

    Hannity: I didn’t know that.

    Morris: The House of Representatives last year spent $25 million paying the salary, student loans of their staffers.
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    Re: The University of Alabama and changing times

    This post has crossed over to the political so moving to the appropriate place.

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    Re: The University of Alabama and changing times

    Quote Originally Posted by jashleyren2 View Post
    Hey all. Not sure where this post would belong, but this seems like the right place.

    My wife and I graduated from THE University of Alabama in the very late 90's. I loved my time there, as did she. It's where we met, and still have fond memories of parties at the Centre Court apartments there behind the strip, where she lived for 2 years. On to my point...

    The place is a lot different now. 20 years has seen a lot of improvements to the whole campus, and that part of Tuscaloosa extending to downtown. Good stuff. But some of it, I leave wondering how a "broke" college student is supposed to enjoy. Which bring me to a thought: knowing that more than half the incoming freshman class every year is from out of state, and tuition rates are what they are, what is the long game for business in Tuscaloosa, and the University of Alabama's attendance? By "long game", no doubt that much of the growth since 2010 or so has come due in large part to the success of the football team. Hallelujah for that, after sitting through the DuBose years. But the growth, especially following the terrible 2011 tornadoes, seems to focus on people spending more money than I ever had while a student there. Going out to eat was a 1x per week affair. And, at best, it was gonna be Chili's or Applebee's, or something crappy like that. None of this boutique restaurant business. Likewise, shopping has grown in Tuscaloosa en masse. Specialty stores, high end retailers that focus on profit margin rather than volume are everywhere.

    The place seems so different. Today's student is walking around with a phone connecting their eyes to their hands, with a considerable contract cost to each of them. This life isn't free, for sure. My recent trip to Santa Barbara, CA confirmed any doubts I had that things cost more now. But Santa Barbara is a resort city, a vacation place, with rich people living in it, that just so happens to also have a college in it. Tuscaloosa IS the University of Alabama, for the most part. Sure, there's other folks besides students, but the ratio of full time residents to students has actually gotten larger since I was there (attendance in 1996 was about 20k undergrad, compared to under 100k residents). Undergrad attendance is close to double that now. How are these people affording this place, anymore? Rents are MUCH higher, with more "luxury" living? Was this the ultimate goal of President Witt, when he launched large initiatives to grow the school?

    Lastly, and thanks for staying along so far, I ask this question as an alum, who now has one of college age, and wishes she would choose U of A. She is not choosing U of A, for many of the reasons I listed above.

    couldn't even get my daughter to consider Bama

    I didn't try all that hard for the record. I am done with sending them money and have been for some time.
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    Re: The University of Alabama and changing times

    Quote Originally Posted by GrayTide View Post
    Pretty much how I feel also. I romanticize often about the great times, places, and people I shared those days with as an undergraduate in Tuscaloosa. It was one of the most enjoyable times of my life, but it was a different time and place and most of those people I have never seen since graduation. The University of Alabama in my heart and memory no longer exists, that, to me, is sad, but it is life. We have friends in Tuscaloosa that we visit each fall when we attend the once a year game. I always look forward to that trip, but know I will be disappointed with what the University has become and, the total commercialization of the "game day experience". On our Sunday drive home after the game, I always ask my wife, "why in the hell do we do this every year knowing how we will feel for weeks after the trip". Maybe some day I will finally accept the fact that "you can never go home again".
    To quote an old country song (Tracy Lawrence's) "Time Marches On". What you're talking about happens to every generation in dang near every aspect of life. I used to hear my dad (when I was kid) talk about missing the shops that sold malts, root beer/"coke" floats, candy for a penny etc. I had no idea what he was talking about except when I was able to watch the Andy Griffith Show and Opie would go to the "Soda Shop" and I could see what "Daddy" was talking about. Fast forward over 30 years later. I'm now beginning to experience what my Dad did with my kids and today's culture. There are some things that I experienced in my childhood my kids will never get to experience. And the very few things that are still around that I enjoyed as a kid they care nothing about. I'm sure in 30 years (as I did with my dad), they will be in my shoes with their kids.
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    Re: The University of Alabama and changing times

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    Those people can bankrupt. You can't bankrupt out of student loans, which is a disgrace to the legal system, brought in to benefit the lenders like Betsy...
    Biden was one of the key sponsors of that legislation--Warren is starting to make it an issue:

    Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) was the first Democratic 2020 hopeful to take a direct swing at former Vice President Joe Biden since he got into the race, accusing him of being “on the side of the credit companies” in a fight that launched her political career a decade ago.

    Warren’s quarrel with Biden isn’t personal. It’s about a 2005 bankruptcy bill he supported as a senator. Warren opposed the bill so vehemently that its passage inspired her transition from a Harvard bankruptcy law professor, who studied middle-class economics, to a senator and now a presidential hopeful.
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    Re: The University of Alabama and changing times

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    couldn't even get my daughter to consider Bama

    I didn't try all that hard for the record. I am done with sending them money and have been for some time.
    Same here. Hell, for a while I was resigned to her attending the Barn--she finally decided on UAB. Granted, Bama didn't have the major she wanted, but still, I haven't been happy with the direction the university has made over the past few decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamabuzzard View Post
    There are some things that I experienced in my childhood my kids will never get to experience.
    Like spending time to make the PERFECT mix tape that you just know will make that girl you like completely change how she sees you.

    Not speaking from experience or anything. Totally saw this on Saved by the Bell.
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    Re: The University of Alabama and changing times

    Quote Originally Posted by Bamabuzzard View Post
    There are some things that I experienced in my childhood my kids will never get to experience.
    Glaciers?

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    Re: The University of Alabama and changing times

    Quote Originally Posted by seebell View Post
    Can some one please post a link showing that children of congress can discharge student loans by bankruptcy. I am skeptical.
    Seebell,
    I'm sorry. I posted it (and I believed it to be true), but I have not been able to find a link. This may be internet legend.
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