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    Re: My goodness Clemsonís schedule is a JOKE.

    Quote Originally Posted by saturdaysarebet View Post
    Thank heavens for the college football playoff. With the ACC as weak as it is, it would appear Clemson plays one strong team in Texas A&M and that's it.

    In the past without a conference championship game and playoff system, Clemson would go to the Orange Bowl and play the Big 8 or Big 12 representative and be done with it. With a playoff, at least they and every other team now must beat at least two good teams to win a national championship.
    Actually the current cfp format is arguably more favorable to a team like Clemson playing in a weak conference. If old bowl system had been in place last year Sugar likely takes ND over Clemson to face SEC champ Bama, then Clemson likely goes to Orange & plays Oklahoma. In that scenario Bama probably wins by a as big or a bigger margin than Clemson because Notre Dame was just not that good, and the pollsters/voters probably vote Bama #1 due to a much tougher schedule.

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    Clemson can start their second teamers the rest of the regular season and win out.
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    Re: My goodness Clemsonís schedule is a JOKE.

    Quote Originally Posted by USCBAMA View Post
    Actually the current cfp format is arguably more favorable to a team like Clemson playing in a weak conference. If old bowl system had been in place last year Sugar likely takes ND over Clemson to face SEC champ Bama, then Clemson likely goes to Orange & plays Oklahoma. In that scenario Bama probably wins by a as big or a bigger margin than Clemson because Notre Dame was just not that good, and the pollsters/voters probably vote Bama #1 due to Alabama being a bigger brand name and beating Notre Dame.

    FIFY - and it's a lot of why that old system was a sick joke.
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    Re: My goodness Clemsonís schedule is a JOKE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Power Eye View Post
    They donít play UVA, but they are probably the second best team in the conference, which I canít believe Iím typing. Their QB is pretty dangerous.
    If thatís the case then Clemson will almost certainly see the in the ACC CG. Problem solved...

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    Re: My goodness Clemsonís schedule is a JOKE.

    Quote Originally Posted by selmaborntidefan View Post
    FIFY - and it's a lot of why that old system was a sick joke.
    Agree, but the cfp in its current format is not much less of a joke. Taking "deserving" teams over best teams (ND last year, Michigan State a few years ago) and ranking the teams based on God knows what criteria in lieu of who is really the best team (Clemson #1 seed in 2017 was a joke) has not helped cfp. The cfp committee consist of biased school ADs, and non-football people such as school presidents and even politicians. It's simply not picking and seeding based on who are the best teams. Politics and brand name are still a huge factor (which does benefit Bama, so there's that).

    In my opinion, with only 4 teams there is not enough wiggle room to adequately factor in strength of schedule along with performance & record. Clemson has little to no incentive to toughen their schedule. This year their schedule is hardly any tougher than UCFs, but if both teams run the table Clemson will be #1 seed in cfp and UCF will finish around 8th and get another consolation bowl. I'm not making the UCF argument here, just showing that Clemson schedule is a joke, and under current cfp system Clemson would be absolutely nuts to change that any time soon. If anything, they might be wise to weaken it since now that they are among the elite all they have to do is win out to make cfp, schedule be damned. The best/most obvious solution is to expand to 8-teams. For those who think this is a mistake, the only other solution I can come up with is to heavily weight strength of schedule in selection process and seeding process, but then you leave a big name like ND out last year and we all know that would not sit well with TV execs (which is why the cfp doesn't especially take the 4 best teams to begin with).

    Bottom line, fans looking for a way to get Clemson to toughen their schedule are out of luck because there isn't one outside of revamping cfp - right now the cfp literally incentivizes them to play a soft schedule. If there are better ways to address this I'm all ears as I'm certainly not an expert, just a fan.

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