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    Re: What will fix our OL problems?

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    We're legit threatening to be a 9-3 team with the OL performance right now. It ought to improve but it ain't there yet.
    If we're going to see this oline performance in November, I agree. We'll drop three games this season. I just don't see us not improving at all. Worst case scenario, Saban realizes at some point in the season the Oline is what it is and we completely scrap trying to be a power running team and begin using elements of the passing game to compensate for not being able to run the ball. Heck, the Patriots ran through an entire season and won a super bowl one year doing this. At some point in the season you realize "we are who we are" and go with it.
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    Re: What will fix our OL problems?

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    Agreed. We're not winning an SEC championship (much less a national title) with the current Oline performances. Just not going to happen. A lot of kinks to workout to do that.
    Based on recruiting rankings the OL players we sign are mostly all 4 stars with a couple of 5 stars and 3 stars sprinkled in. They get to Tuscaloosa and somehow we never hear of them again. I am concerned that possibly we are misjudging the OL recruits or we do not have an OL coach who can develop the talent on hand. I still feel that the turnover in the staff over the past 3 years and what looks to be the total reliance on the passing game has put our NC chances in a precarious situation.
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    Re: What will fix our OL problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrayTide View Post
    Based on recruiting rankings the OL players we sign are mostly all 4 stars with a couple of 5 stars and 3 stars sprinkled in. They get to Tuscaloosa and somehow we never hear of them again. I am concerned that possibly we are misjudging the OL recruits or we do not have an OL coach who can develop the talent on hand. I still feel that the turnover in the staff over the past 3 years and what looks to be the total reliance on the passing game has put our NC chances in a precarious situation.
    I think it's coaching to be honest. I really do. For whatever reason we have struggled to get an OL coach who can effectively develop offensive linemen as a unit. Yeah, we've got some individually talented players on the line but the more important thing is they work and develop as a unit. Which as we all have seen, they haven't. We out talent most teams so it isn't as glaring. But as we play teams that are closer or equal to talent as we are it becomes more glaring.
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    I've said it before in other discussions but Alabama has had a reputation in NFL scouting circles - for almost a decade now - that we just throw 5 big athletes out there and out-talent college competition. Our reputation is that we don't really develop technique and our OL prospects are risky picks accordingly. This was not the case under Pendry and Stoutland but it has become the reputation since their retirement and rise to the NFL ranks respectively.
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    Re: What will fix our OL problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrayTide View Post
    Based on recruiting rankings the OL players we sign are mostly all 4 stars with a couple of 5 stars and 3 stars sprinkled in. They get to Tuscaloosa and somehow we never hear of them again. I am concerned that possibly we are misjudging the OL recruits or we do not have an OL coach who can develop the talent on hand. I still feel that the turnover in the staff over the past 3 years and what looks to be the total reliance on the passing game has put our NC chances in a precarious situation.
    Eh.. we had two linemen drafted last year.. One the first OT taken in the draft and another taken in the 5th round who earned a rookie contract. The year before that Bozeman was drafted and made the league and is still on an NFL roster. Cam Robinson was taken in the 2nd round in 2017.

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    Re: What will fix our OL problems?

    Game Experience. We are nowhere near the "Honk if you've sacked Brodie" days.
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    Re: What will fix our OL problems?

    I wonder how much moving from a power run oriented offense to almost a pass-first offense has affected the line play? I.e., focused on knocking people off the ball versus, as Coach Bryant called pass blocking, rubbing bellies?

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    I still think it goes back to what some others have said. We pass so much that when we decide to run the O-line has a difficult time switching gears. They need a nasty attitude ALL the time not just when we try to run the ball. Hopefully we are already making adjustments and teaching those that have missed too many assignments to show them where to improve. RTR

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    Re: What will fix our OL problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrayTide View Post
    Based on recruiting rankings the OL players we sign are mostly all 4 stars with a couple of 5 stars and 3 stars sprinkled in. They get to Tuscaloosa and somehow we never hear of them again. I am concerned that possibly we are misjudging the OL recruits or we do not have an OL coach who can develop the talent on hand. I still feel that the turnover in the staff over the past 3 years and what looks to be the total reliance on the passing game has put our NC chances in a precarious situation.
    OL coach position has turned over yearly for last few years. The same is true for the offensive coordinator. Maybe Saban needs to start tying these coaches pay to a bonus system where they get big checks for staying 3 years.
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    Re: What will fix our OL problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Toddrn View Post
    I still think it goes back to what some others have said. We pass so much that when we decide to run the O-line has a difficult time switching gears. They need a nasty attitude ALL the time not just when we try to run the ball. Hopefully we are already making adjustments and teaching those that have missed too many assignments to show them where to improve. RTR
    I keep hearing this but it makes no sense to me.

    If you're an offensive lineman you want to run block so you can be aggressive. This is where the "big uglies" can be ugly. I don't see how the idea of pass blocking one play and then run blocking the next is such a big jump that they can't mentally get up for it.

    If someone who played OL can weigh in here it would be helpful.

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    Who knows? Maybe the first two games was a set-up for USCE and help develop the passing game a bit with pass blocking. This weekend will tell a lot.
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    Re: What will fix our OL problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrayTide View Post
    Based on recruiting rankings the OL players we sign are mostly all 4 stars with a couple of 5 stars and 3 stars sprinkled in. They get to Tuscaloosa and somehow we never hear of them again. I am concerned that possibly we are misjudging the OL recruits or we do not have an OL coach who can develop the talent on hand. I still feel that the turnover in the staff over the past 3 years and what looks to be the total reliance on the passing game has put our NC chances in a precarious situation.
    Flood is supposed to have a good reputation for OL work, so hopefully they get there...…………….when the suspended OL comes back, I suspect the running game will look a lot better. The good thing is, Saban knows the OL needs to get there, and I expect them to perform better
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    Re: What will fix our OL problems?

    I will take our OL over ATL Falcons based on what I have seen today. Trash.

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