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    Re: How good is LSU?

    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    LSU will most likely be undefeated going into BDS, but until they play Florida and Auburn because of Joe Burrow’s arm , I still think Alabama beats them by 14-21 points. I don’t think Oeaux will be gutsy enough to call those aggressive plays against our DBs with how explosive our offense is.

    So at the present I would be more fearful of USCe pulling out a crazy game because they and their coach have nothing to lose at home with a quarterback that only has 1 game of film ( Bama beats them). Point is everytime Oeaux has played Bama (05,06,07,16,17,and 18) he always plays hyper conservative. With a national championship and a trip to Atlanta on the line in Tuscaloosa, you can bet your butt that he isn’t going to make Joe Burrow beat us with 50/50 balls like he did against Texas.
    You may be correct about Coach O, but if they come to BDS unbeaten and they try to beat us with a conservative approach as opposed to sticking with their new offensive philosophy, it would be the dumbest move of his career.

    If I'm him I'd stick to my guns and dance with what brought me and if Tua outguns him (and I think we'd win in a shootout with LSU at home) at least he could leave the field knowing he had tried something new and what had been working.

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    Re: How good is LSU?

    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    LSU will most likely be undefeated going into BDS, but until they play and beat Florida and Auburn mostly because of Joe Burrow’s arm , I still think Alabama beats them by 14-21 points. I don’t think Oeaux will be gutsy enough to call those aggressive plays against our DBs with how explosive our offense is.

    So at the present I would be more fearful of USCe pulling out a crazy game because they and their coach have nothing to lose at home with a quarterback that only has 1 game of film ( Bama beats them). Point is everytime Oeaux has played Bama (05,06,07,16,17,and 18) he always plays hyper conservative. With a national championship and a trip to Atlanta on the line in Tuscaloosa, you can bet your butt that he isn’t going to make Joe Burrow beat us with 50/50 balls like he did against Texas.
    I hear Danny Sheridan give a line of Alabama -12 if the LSU game was played tomorrow. But this is all fun and games at this point...pure speculation. The Corndogs will not lose over the next month but then they have Florida at home, at MSU and Auburn at home. They can easily lose two of those games the way I see it.
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    Re: How good is LSU?

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaMoon View Post
    It appears Burrows has improved his ability to throw the ball and he looks pretty confident in the system they are running.

    Maybe I'm nitpicking, but I didn't like what he was doing at the end of the game when he was sarcastically waving up into the stands at the Texas fans. If I'm a coach and caught my team leader and my QB doing that I would have ripped him a new one.

    He had just had the best performance of his life and instead of taking pride in that and celebrating with his teammates, he's gesturing to the opponent's crowd like an immature 6th grader. It seriously makes me question where his head is.
    many posters on various football boards cited what you posted above. it was bush league.... act like you been there before, then again I forget he hasn't.

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    Re: How good is LSU?

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaJama17 View Post
    LSU has plenty of great players that will be in the NFL one day. Burrow IMO isn’t a first or second round draft pick but he is capable of having a “Stephen Garcia” type game against Alabama.
    If LSU can’t run vs Alabama then they don’t win. But also if LSU is too committed to the run then they get blown out.

    I think too much is made out of Stephen García’s performance and less is made about the key stats that really mattered in that 2010 USCE game. Like the stat that says USCE outgained bama 110-36 ( 110-64 if you take the 7 sacks on Gmac away). García actually had the same number of yards in 2009 that he did against us in 2010 ,the difference is that they ran against us at will. Really no team has ever beaten Alabama without winning the rushing yards with the exception of Clemson.

    Point is until LSU can run against us then there is really no real fear of them surviving a shootout against Bama at BDS.
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    Re: How good is LSU?

    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    If LSU can’t run vs Alabama then they don’t win. But also if LSU is too committed to the run then they get blown out.

    I think too much is made out of Stephen García’s performance and less is made about the key stats that really mattered in that 2010 USCE game. Like the stat that says USCE outgained bama 110-36 ( 110-64 if you take the 7 sacks on Gmac away). García actually had the same number of yards in 2009 that he did against us in 2010 ,the difference is that they ran against us at will. Really no team has ever beaten Alabama without winning the rushing yards with the exception of Clemson.

    Point is until LSU can run against us then there is really no real fear of them surviving a shootout against Bama at BDS.
    We may look back and realize the Texas game was Burrow's "Stephen Garcia" moment. Outside of the LSU fans, who would honestly say this is what we should expect to see from Burrow each week? No freakin' way. If this is the "new and improved" Burrow Tua may want to stay another year because there's a new number one pick for next years NFL draft.
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    Re: How good is LSU?

    Quote Originally Posted by sanjosecrimson View Post
    many posters on various football boards cited what you posted above. it was bush league.... act like you been there before, then again I forget he hasn't.
    I honestly hadn't heard it discussed, but it really was uncalled for and Kirk Herbstreit even called him out about it on the broadcast. First negative thing he said about him all night long.

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    Re: How good is LSU?

    Texas didn't have much of a pass rush so Burrow could pick the defense apart. Hopefully by the time we play them we'll have developed a better pass rush and thus the LSU offense won't be as productive. They'll have to play a couple of teams with defenses better than Texas before they play us so by game time we'll know how good they are.

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    Re: How good is LSU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bamabuzzard View Post
    We may look back and realize the Texas game was Burrow's "Stephen Garcia" moment. Outside of the LSU fans, who would honestly say this is what we should expect to see from Burrow each week? No freakin' way. If this is the "new and improved" Burrow Tua may want to stay another year because there's a new number one pick for next years NFL draft.
    Jalen Hurts is probably going to account for about 500 yards vs Texas by himself in a few weeks.

    I think once Burrow plays against Florida and Auburn then we will have a better feel at where he is at. I’m not saying that either beats LSU, I’m saying before we say he is in Tua or Fromm’s zip codes we probably want to see him against a real defense.

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    Re: How good is LSU?

    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    Jalen Hurts is probably going to account for about 500 yards vs Texas by himself in a few weeks.

    I think once Burrow plays against Florida and Auburn then we will have a better feel at where he is at. I’m not saying that either beats LSU, I’m saying before we say he is in Tua or Fromm’s zip codes we probably want to see him against a real defense.
    I'll give the guy his due, he made some passes that I don't think he would have made last season. So he has improved. But like you, I'm not ready to start moving him up Mel Kiper's big board just yet.
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    Re: How good is LSU?

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaMoon View Post
    I honestly hadn't heard it discussed, but it really was uncalled for and Kirk Herbstreit even called him out about it on the broadcast. First negative thing he said about him all night long.
    Last week Kirk was praising young Nix, this week is Burrow. who's next??

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    Re: How good is LSU?

    Quote Originally Posted by sanjosecrimson View Post
    Last week Kirk was praising young Nix, this week is Burrow. who's next??
    I believe Nix will wind up being a good one for Auburn. The question is...will Gus still be around?


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    Re: How good is LSU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bamabuzzard View Post
    For those who were able to sit in front of the tv for the entire game. Herbie, dang near the entire game, kept pointing out that Texas was choosing to put their "young corners on an island" with no safety help over the top. If he said once, he said at a hundred times in disbelief throughout the game. Several times the ABC broadcast would show replays of the LSU WR's literally running completely past Texas' corners at the snap. LOL!
    Yep ... I thought them calling a blitz when they had them at 3rd and 17 was questionable. All they had to do was stop them and their offense took the field only down by 6. They in turn, watch LSU convert a 3rd and 17 into a game-winning TD.

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    Re: How good is LSU?

    Quote Originally Posted by BAMAVILLE View Post
    Yep ... I thought them calling a blitz when they had them at 3rd and 17 was questionable. All they had to do was stop them and their offense took the field only down by 6. They in turn, watch LSU convert a 3rd and 17 into a game-winning TD.
    That's a great point you make. If Texas stops them on 3rd and 17, gets the ball back and wins the game suddenly college football fans start saying maybe LSU isn't as good as people thought after being favored and then losing to a Big 12 team. Shows that just one play changes the perception from LSU being just a good team into the notion of Kirk Herbstreit and others saying they have a Top 2 team.

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