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    Re: The Trump Impeachment Thread

    I was excited when I read the headline. I thought the Republicans might actually be turning on him. Then I saw the resolution is nonbinding. That means they can pretend to show teeth without actually injuring him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uafanataum View Post
    I was excited when I read the headline. I thought the Republicans might actually be turning on him. Then I saw the resolution is nonbinding. That means they can pretend to show teeth without actually injuring him.
    Agree - but the fact they would do this shows, well, something. If nothing else maybe they know how bad this looks and want to distance themselves?
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    Quite the symbolic gesture and more than I expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonaudio View Post
    Agree - but the fact they would do this shows, well, something. If nothing else maybe they know how bad this looks and want to distance themselves?
    On the looking bad I am not sure. I think with them having the majority in the Senate they may be able to put up roadblocks everywhere from information coming out. They could maybe spin it into " the mean Ole democrats are picking on us white Christians again". The base would eat it like pie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uafanataum View Post
    On the looking bad I am not sure. I think with them having the majority in the Senate they may be able to put up roadblocks everywhere from information coming out. They could maybe spin it into " the mean Ole democrats are picking on us white Christians again". The base would eat it like pie.
    Touché. I'm ever the optimist, so that's probably why I thought it potentially good. But it's an admittedly naive thing to consider, with recent history.

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    So the Senate voted unanimously in support of the House requiring the White House to furnish the full, un-redacted, whistleblower report to Congress. While that is encouraging; something smells fishy about this. Why would the Senate Republicans willingly cooperate in this matter? They must know that the report is not as damning as the media and most Democrats believe it to be. McConnell and his cronies are not stupid, they obviously know something the Democrats don't know and so does Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayTide View Post
    So the Senate voted unanimously in support of the House requiring the White House to furnish the full, un-redacted, whistleblower report to Congress. While that is encouraging; sometime smells fishy about this. Why would the Senate Republicans willingly cooperate in this matter? They must know that the report is not as damning as the media and most Democrats believe it to be. McConnell and his cronies are not stupid, they obviously know something the Democrats don't know and so does Trump.
    That should tell you right there. A second hand account? Wasn’t on the call? I suggest to the President, smashing devices with a hammer, bleach bit, a corrupt FBI, those seem to be legal. PS “I told them to fire the SOB.” Biden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson1967 View Post
    I have concerns about moving forward with impeachment.

    For one thing, it will probably wind up just being symbolic. The Democrats control the House 235-199 with one Republican turned independent. So they will probably get the 218 votes needed to impeach him.

    But to remove him from office, they need 67 votes in the Senate. There are only 47 Democrats in the Senate. So you need at least 20 Republicans to vote him out of office. (I wouldn’t bet my life on Manchin voting guilty, though he doesn’t run again until 2024).

    I think it would take a lot to get a huge number of Republicans to go against Trump. Most of them come from states Trump won easily in 2016. There will be 23 Republican seats up in 2020, including two special elections in Arizona and Georgia. Pretty sure they don’t want a primary challenge.

    For that matter, is the Senate even required to hold a trial if he is impeached?

    I think the whole thing could result in making Trump a martyr and galvanize his base. If the Democrats nominate someone too far left, it could tilt the balance to re-elect him.

    And since the whole Ukraine mess involves Joe Biden, it could uncover some dirt they don’t want uncovered.


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    I have believed for some time that Trump's base would support him if they watched him execute a nun on live TV.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson1967 View Post
    I have concerns about moving forward with impeachment.

    For one thing, it will probably wind up just being symbolic. The Democrats control the House 235-199 with one Republican turned independent. So they will probably get the 218 votes needed to impeach him.

    But to remove him from office, they need 67 votes in the Senate. There are only 47 Democrats in the Senate. So you need at least 20 Republicans to vote him out of office. (I wouldn’t bet my life on Manchin voting guilty, though he doesn’t run again until 2024).

    I think it would take a lot to get a huge number of Republicans to go against Trump. Most of them come from states Trump won easily in 2016. There will be 23 Republican seats up in 2020, including two special elections in Arizona and Georgia. Pretty sure they don’t want a primary challenge.

    For that matter, is the Senate even required to hold a trial if he is impeached?

    I think the whole thing could result in making Trump a martyr and galvanize his base. If the Democrats nominate someone too far left, it could tilt the balance to re-elect him.

    And since the whole Ukraine mess involves Joe Biden, it could uncover some dirt they don’t want uncovered.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson1967 View Post
    I have concerns about moving forward with impeachment.

    For one thing, it will probably wind up just being symbolic. The Democrats control the House 235-199 with one Republican turned independent. So they will probably get the 218 votes needed to impeach him.

    But to remove him from office, they need 67 votes in the Senate. There are only 47 Democrats in the Senate. So you need at least 20 Republicans to vote him out of office. (I wouldn’t bet my life on Manchin voting guilty, though he doesn’t run again until 2024).

    I think it would take a lot to get a huge number of Republicans to go against Trump. Most of them come from states Trump won easily in 2016. There will be 23 Republican seats up in 2020, including two special elections in Arizona and Georgia. Pretty sure they don’t want a primary challenge.

    For that matter, is the Senate even required to hold a trial if he is impeached?

    I think the whole thing could result in making Trump a martyr and galvanize his base. If the Democrats nominate someone too far left, it could tilt the balance to re-elect him.

    And since the whole Ukraine mess involves Joe Biden, it could uncover some dirt they don’t want uncovered.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bamamc1 View Post
    That should tell you right there. A second hand account? Wasn’t on the call? I suggest to the President, smashing devices with a hammer, bleach bit, a corrupt FBI, those seem to be legal. PS “I told them to fire the SOB.” Biden.
    With all due respect, I really don't understand what you're saying here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayTide View Post
    So the Senate voted unanimously in support of the House requiring the White House to furnish the full, un-redacted, whistleblower report to Congress. While that is encouraging; sometime smells fishy about this. Why would the Senate Republicans willingly cooperate in this matter? They must know that the report is not as damning as the media and most Democrats believe it to be. McConnell and his cronies are not stupid, they obviously know something the Democrats don't know and so does Trump.
    Hadn't thought about the repubs playing along for this reason - what if the doc is nothing? What if this is all an elaborate setup to cut the dems off at the knees?

    If the dems are right, this will effectively end his presidency. But if they're wrong, this will effectively give Trump 2020.
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