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    White House moved records of president's conversations with foreign officials on to separate computer system

    The complaint also alleges a pattern of obfuscation at the White House, in which officials moved the records of some of Mr Trumpís communications with foreign officials onto a separate computer network from where they are normally stored, this person said.

    The whistleblower alleges that is what officials did with Mr Trumpís 25 July call with Mr Zelensky, an action that alarmed the intelligence community inspector general and prompted him to request that the White House retain records of the Mr Zelensky call.

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    Observing Trump's demeanor yesterday, the usual blusterous load mouth appeared to be under sedation.

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    This is the darkest timeline.

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    here is the whistleblower's complaint

    link to pdf
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    I wish I could claim originality for this one:

    This wasn't quid pro quo, it was quid amateur quo.

    (Kinda hard to say - still accurate).
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    We got a 'summarized' transcript of the call. I'm guessing that there may still be an actual recording of the entire conversation. This recording, if it still exists, may turn out to be Trump's version of the Nixon tapes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92tide View Post
    here is the whistleblower's complaint

    link to pdf
    That is... very bad. The juicy stuff is in the classified appendix, but the circumstantial evidence alone is pretty damning. If the impeachment proceedings can ascribe motive to Trump denying foreign aid in exchange for election interference, I honestly think he's toast. Even this Senate has to switch into cover-thine-ass mode at some point.

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    From the whistleblower complaint:

    "According to WH officials I spoke with, this is “not the first time” under this administration that a presidential transcript was placed into this foreword level system solely for the purpose of protecting politically sensitive — rather than national security sensitive — information."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharminTide View Post
    That is... very bad. The juicy stuff is in the classified appendix, but the circumstantial evidence alone is pretty damning. If the impeachment proceedings can ascribe motive to Trump denying foreign aid in exchange for election interference, I honestly think he's toast. Even this Senate has to switch into cover-thine-ass mode at some point.

    there is a GOP "operative" (whatever that means) claiming that GOP Senators have him believing that if the impeachment vote is secret 30 Republican Senators will vote to impeach. I can't decide if this is just a strategy to try to convince the Dems that a secret vote is ok or not. The D's want this all public so they can campaign against those who chose to cover for Trump. Going to be interesting watching it play out
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    Also, can we just take a step back and look at the geopolitical picture for a sec.

    Trump has been spending months trying to get Ukraine to actively interfere in the 2020 election, seeking a way to implicate Ukraine in the 2016 election interference, and denying them military aid to oppose Russia's advancement into their territory.

    Seems very favorable to Putin, yes? This whole thing is bonkers.

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    Oh boy, someone gave him a phone.

    https://twitter.com/abc/status/1177201488688537602


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