Politics: The Trump Impeachment Thread

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Just briefly caught a minute or two of the hearings. For whatever reason, what these two witnesses don't care to understand is that the president of the United States —whoever that is at the time—SETS foreign policy. There is no "irregular" channel.
POTUS does set policy and can choose to use an irregular channel.

What he can't do lawfully is to use policy for personal/political gain. That is against the law.
 

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Per WaPo:
Congress can seek eight years of President Trump’s tax records, according to a federal appeals court order Wednesday that moves the separation-of-powers conflict one step closer to the Supreme Court.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit let stand an earlier ruling against the president that affirmed Congress’s investigative authority on a day when the House was holding its first public impeachment inquiry hearing.

Trump’s lawyers have said they are prepared to ask the Supreme Court to intervene in this case and in several other legal battles between the president and Congress.
 

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Just briefly caught a minute or two of the hearings. For whatever reason, what these two witnesses don't care to understand is that the president of the United States —whoever that is at the time—SETS foreign policy. There is no "irregular" channel.
He may not do it for corrupt reasons, which is what he did...
 

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The "irregular channel" was working against decades-longstanding established policy that the State Department was trying to implement.

The two were working against each other.

If somebody can't understand that and the problem with it, they are deliberately ignoring facts.

The State Department, had been trying to tamp down Russian influence and oppose Putin's annexation of part of Ukraine. The secret channel seems to be trying to prevent any pushback against the Russians.

This is like living in a looney bin that we are to this point, with people still defending what went on.
 

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I got this from a website called - Real Clear Politics. I have no idea if it's located in Russa or France, leans left or right. It came up in a search to read more about Alan Dershowitz comments on the legal issues with Trumps impeachment.

Joe Biden Brags At CFR Meeting About Withholding Aid To Ukraine...2018

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I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours.
I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a gun. (Laughter.) He got fired.
When Biden did that, he was working in concert with State Department/U.S. goals to advance what was in the U.S.'s best interest. He was not fishing for dirt on a domestic political opponent.
 

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The "irregular channel" was working against decades-longstanding established policy that the State Department was trying to implement.

The two were working against each other.

If somebody can't understand that and the problem with it, they are deliberately ignoring facts.

The State Department, had been trying to tamp down Russian influence and oppose Putin's annexation of part of Ukraine. The secret channel seems to be trying to prevent any pushback against the Russians.

This is like living in a looney bin that we are to this point, with people still defending what went on.
totally not defending trump, just asking questions that libtards are afraid to answer
 

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When Biden did that, he was working in concert with State Department/U.S. goals to advance what was in the U.S.'s best interest. He was not fishing for dirt on a domestic political opponent.

Even if he was, he's not the one up for impeachment and wasn't President. If someone wants to try and charge Biden with a crime, then do it. Trying to prove that Trump isn't the only criminal in politics doesn't really help his case.
 

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Even if he was, he's not the one up for impeachment and wasn't President. If someone wants to try and charge Biden with a crime, then do it. Trying to prove that Trump isn't the only criminal in politics doesn't really help his case.
"What's the big deal, they all do it?" defense. I'm with you, that doesn't cut it.
 

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Trying to prove that Trump isn't the only criminal in politics doesn't really help his case.
"What's the big deal, they all do it?" defense. I'm with you, that doesn't cut it.
Come on guys, without that they don't even have a defense. And that's not fair to them. The snowflakes deserve a safe place to get participation trophies for their poor defense attempts.
 

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From Mo Brooks FaceBook page. Did he set a record for using the word "socialist" in one statement?

Makes me right proud he is my congressman.

As more sham impeachment proceedings get underway— this time in public— remember the Socialist Democrat goal in all this. It isn’t to remove President Trump from office, it’s to maximize Socialist Democrat chances of keeping the House and taking the Senate and White House in 2020. Socialist Democrats can’t win at the ballot box pushing their Socialist agenda so they’ve resorted to lies and deceit in undermining the duly elected president of the United States. Today’s proceedings aren’t about what’s good for America, they are about what’s good for Socialist Democrat politicians.














 

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POTUS does set policy and can choose to use an irregular channel.

What he can't do lawfully is to use policy for personal/political gain. That is against the law.
As another poster said, POTUS can choose to use an irregular channel. That in and of itself is not illegal, and other presidents have chosen to use such channels on occasion. The fact that POTUS chose to do something in an irregular way could be some evidence that he had something to hide. Not determinative in and of itself, but one relevant fact. If this were all that this case rested on, it would be a laughably weak case, but there is way more evidence than that. Part of the Republican strategy here is to pick at tiny strands like this and pretend that they are the entire ball of yarn.
 
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At a press conference Nancy Pelosi engaged in some top shelf trolling.
Asked if she had made her mind up on impeachment, she said, (in part), "I am open to exculpatory evidence. My president, that means evidence that proves you are innocent."

Well played, Madame Speaker. Well played.
 

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At a press conference Nancy Pelosi engaged in some top shelf trolling.
Asked if she had made her mind up on impeachment, she said, (in part), "I am open to exculpatory evidence. My president, that means evidence that proves you are innocent."

Well played, Madame Speaker. Well played.
i just saw a clip of that. i wonder if he even realizes he got trolled.
 

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From Mo Brooks FaceBook page. Did he set a record for using the word "socialist" in one statement?

Makes me right proud he is my congressman.

As more sham impeachment proceedings get underway— this time in public— remember the Socialist Democrat goal in all this. It isn’t to remove President Trump from office, it’s to maximize Socialist Democrat chances of keeping the House and taking the Senate and White House in 2020. Socialist Democrats can’t win at the ballot box pushing their Socialist agenda so they’ve resorted to lies and deceit in undermining the duly elected president of the United States. Today’s proceedings aren’t about what’s good for America, they are about what’s good for Socialist Democrat politicians.














I usually assume social media posts are handled by a low level staffer. But that is so stupid I think Mel may have written it himself.


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Kelly Ann Conway was on CNN this morning and Wolf Blitzer just sat there and let her run her mouth for ten minutes without stopping. One point she keeps harping on is that Democrats have been trying ever since Trump was elected to get him out of office. Let's say I have a neighbor, and I have been telling police for three years that this guy is a thief. He gets caught stealing. So should the courts not prosecute because I told them so for three years?

Wolf never asked her the most cogent question: "Is it OK for a president to ask a foreign nation to supply dirt on his political opponent in a US election?"

READ THE TRANSCRIPT
 

92tide

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Kelly Ann Conway was on CNN this morning and Wolf Blitzer just sat there and let her run her mouth for ten minutes without stopping. One point she keeps harping on is that Democrats have been trying ever since Trump was elected to get him out of office. Let's say I have a neighbor, and I have been telling police for three years that this guy is a thief. He gets caught stealing. So should the courts not prosecute because I told them so for three years?

Wolf never asked her the most cogent question: "Is it OK for a president to ask a foreign nation to supply dirt on his political opponent in a US election?"

READ THE TRANSCRIPT
for the life of me i have never been able to figure out how wolf blitzer has and keeps a job
 
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