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    Re: Fair Pay to Play Act Signed into Law in CA

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    This will be tested in the courts, but I expect it to stand up. If other states do not get on board, CA schools will gain a huge recruiting advantage in a few years. Will other states join CA and force the NCAA to capitulate?

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    Won't be a recruiting advantage if the PAC12 cannot ever play in a Championship Game....

    I think it will be popcorn worthy.....from a "watch and see" standpoint
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    Re: Fair Pay to Play Act Signed into Law in CA

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    Won't be a recruiting advantage if the PAC12 cannot ever play in a Championship Game....

    I think it will be popcorn worthy.....from a "watch and see" standpoint
    That won't happen. The NCAA is already talking about ways to make this work within their framework. This just forces their hand. Why? Because other states are already working on similar laws. The only way the NCAA maintains any control is to get out in front of the tidal wave.

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    Re: Fair Pay to Play Act Signed into Law in CA

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    And like the post above, in the political climate in which we live, someone will cry unfair. The poor kid that doesn’t have a deal for his or her likeness will claim some type of discrimination. Maybe the coach only plays the “paid” athletes undermining any chance the “unpaid” player has at making it to the next level. It will happen.


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    People above acted like I can't read, but that's the sort of thing I was talking about. What about the women's rowing athlete that feels like she's being denied a sponsorship because a university doesn't provide the same support, marketing, etc. That's where the lawsuits will come in.

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    Re: Fair Pay to Play Act Signed into Law in CA

    The intent of the law is a good one. But as things typically go when the government gets involved in things it shouldn’t, I fear the consequences of it won’t be.

    I think of the case out of USF a couple of years ago where a stud kicker had a viral YouTube channel and was supporting his family with money made off ads he was personally selling. The NCAA gave him an ultimatum to either stop making money off his videos or be ruled ineligible. That’s the kind of garbage that needs to be eliminated.

    The NCAA has had 20 years to figure out a proper system of compensation, but they are so drunk on their own power that it can’t see the forest through the trees. For that reason, the ruling is a good one.

    Ultimately though, there’s a good chance college football as we know it likely ceases to exist unless this passes at a federal level. Some states will embrace the rule change. (I expect NY and NC to be next to pass similar laws soon) Others, like Wisconsin did today, will come out and condemn the ruling and fight with the NCAA against passing it. This leaves two classes of football refusing to schedule each other until they finally dissolve into two separate leagues, with the unpaid league looking more like D2 or D3 talent levels.

    There will be the good with the bad. I’m hoping the NCAA agrees to work with the legislation, but still won’t allow kids to sign with agents, and also strictly monitor whether endorsements are coming from a personal level or from a school level. If everyone plays by the same rules, there’s no reason why this can’t work. However If the NCAA chooses to dig their heels in, they will go down with their own ship, and likely take the entire sport down with them.


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    Re: Fair Pay to Play Act Signed into Law in CA

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    Hey, I'm all for it - I guarantee it will simply let the rich get richer wrt premier talent. The disparity between the Alabamas, Georgias, and Clempsons and the rest of the NCAA will only grow.

    Win / win.
    Until the politicians see that happening and get involved again to invoke college sports socialism so that “fairness and equity” happen by imposing, in effect, a sports wealth tax on the haves to prop up the have nots. It’s never ending.

    Power 5 + 1 need to abandon the NCAA and do their own thing and let the wannabes shrivel on the vine.


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    Re: Fair Pay to Play Act Signed into Law in CA

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    Until the politicians see that happening and get involved again to invoke college sports socialism so that “fairness and equity” happen by imposing, in effect, a sports wealth tax on the haves to prop up the have nots. It’s never ending.

    Power 5 + 1 need to abandon the NCAA and do their own thing and let the wannabes shrivel on the vine.


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    Been a believer of this for a long time. The fix for the collegiate system is just to let the big boys not exist within it then let UAB, Troy, and Jax St do their thing like the old days.
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    Re: Fair Pay to Play Act Signed into Law in CA

    So, this will make it illegal for CA schools to prevent kids from selling their image but, currently, it is still an NCAA violation. Willi the NCAA declare any player who signs an endorsement deal ineligible?

    This gives the players the right to sell their image but, the player has no right to sell the image of the school. Honestly, how many people would pay for an autographed picture of Tua in a generic jersey. As a Bama fan, I don't want it without the Bama jersey. It's the school's logo and colors that give many of these players their true value so, if they aren't aloud to make money off of the school's image what real value do they have? Say a kid signs with Adidas during recruiting. If that player sings with a Nike school, the player will not be aloud to where Adidas stuff on the field. What value is that for Adidas? Also, Adidas would not be able to use the players image in any of the schools uniforms and logos because, their deal is with the kid, not the school.

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    Re: Fair Pay to Play Act Signed into Law in CA

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    So, this will make it illegal for CA schools to prevent kids from selling their image but, currently, it is still an NCAA violation. Willi the NCAA declare any player who signs an endorsement deal ineligible?

    This gives the players the right to sell their image but, the player has no right to sell the image of the school. Honestly, how many people would pay for an autographed picture of Tua in a generic jersey. As a Bama fan, I don't want it without the Bama jersey. It's the school's logo and colors that give many of these players their true value so, if they aren't aloud to make money off of the school's image what real value do they have? Say a kid signs with Adidas during recruiting. If that player sings with a Nike school, the player will not be aloud to where Adidas stuff on the field. What value is that for Adidas? Also, Adidas would not be able to use the players image in any of the schools uniforms and logos because, their deal is with the kid, not the school.
    The lawyers (no offense Earle LOL!) and sports agents are already salivating.
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    Re: Fair Pay to Play Act Signed into Law in CA

    I've seen people say this before but I think you're kidding yourself if you think these players have no value outside the context of their schools.

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    I personally do not care one way or the other, but they (the schools and the players) will sink or swim on their own. I have been gradually losing interest in college football over the last few seasons with the exception of some of the SEC programs. If this is adopted nationwide and,it probably will, college football will go back to what it was, teams of slow, white NR-2 star recruits. Which doesn't bother me because it will certainly level the playing field. Kind of like Columba vs Brown slugging it out on a crisp, chilly, autumnal afternoon.
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    Re: Fair Pay to Play Act Signed into Law in CA

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    So, this will make it illegal for CA schools to prevent kids from selling their image but, currently, it is still an NCAA violation. Willi the NCAA declare any player who signs an endorsement deal ineligible?

    This gives the players the right to sell their image but, the player has no right to sell the image of the school. Honestly, how many people would pay for an autographed picture of Tua in a generic jersey. As a Bama fan, I don't want it without the Bama jersey. It's the school's logo and colors that give many of these players their true value so, if they aren't aloud to make money off of the school's image what real value do they have? Say a kid signs with Adidas during recruiting. If that player sings with a Nike school, the player will not be aloud to where Adidas stuff on the field. What value is that for Adidas? Also, Adidas would not be able to use the players image in any of the schools uniforms and logos because, their deal is with the kid, not the school.
    Car dealerships, tire dealers and many retailers will be lining up to pay players big bucks to come to their place of business and sign autographs. All major schools will organize this (unofficially of course).
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    Re: Fair Pay to Play Act Signed into Law in CA

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    People above acted like I can't read, but that's the sort of thing I was talking about. What about the women's rowing athlete that feels like she's being denied a sponsorship because a university doesn't provide the same support, marketing, etc. That's where the lawsuits will come in.
    I don't think that you understand that law at all.

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    Re: Fair Pay to Play Act Signed into Law in CA

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonNagus View Post
    So, this will make it illegal for CA schools to prevent kids from selling their image but, currently, it is still an NCAA violation. Willi the NCAA declare any player who signs an endorsement deal ineligible?

    This gives the players the right to sell their image but, the player has no right to sell the image of the school. Honestly, how many people would pay for an autographed picture of Tua in a generic jersey. As a Bama fan, I don't want it without the Bama jersey. It's the school's logo and colors that give many of these players their true value so, if they aren't aloud to make money off of the school's image what real value do they have? Say a kid signs with Adidas during recruiting. If that player sings with a Nike school, the player will not be aloud to where Adidas stuff on the field. What value is that for Adidas? Also, Adidas would not be able to use the players image in any of the schools uniforms and logos because, their deal is with the kid, not the school.
    Well the problem is that the NCAA has banned CA from championship competition in all sports if this was passed. So this is going to be a monumental ruling one way or the other given the fact that CA schools are highly competitive in other sports.

    This isn’t going to be just about CA.

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