Fair Pay to Play Act Signed into Law in CA
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You could very well be correct, and I hope you are. I would love to see real student athletes represent my university and have the money and corruption all go to the pros, whether that be minor leagues or NFL. It will be interesting to see what happens when it all shakes out in the wash.
You can watch that now - the Ivy League schools. The product is really, really weak. I think that I would rather go fishing.
DT_yel: on TideFans.comThat's not "making money off your likeness" and you know it. If Tuscaloosa Chevrolet wants to put Jalen Waddle in a commercial and pay him $10,000, I'm fine with that. Allowing boosters to just write checks is something else altogether.
Boosters can use the endorsement likeness idea to just write checks. A lawyer could pay Waddle any amount he wants to be on a billboard or a newspaper ad for his or her law firm. It is equivalent to sitting in the yard. Guys like Phil Knight and Nike can do this for Oregon on an unthinkable level.
It’s about cashing in on their likeness, is it not?
Define likeness?
If Waddle’s helmet is 17 - can he not make a legal argument that every time that helmet is shown he should get paid?
Even though we all know what the 17 stands for - could he not make a case ?
And if the answer is “no”, then why should he be punished because his helmet is the only number that can’t.
Just saying. I get it’s a stretch. But isn’t everything a stretch these days?
As much as I love Bama - if this kills football, so be it. At least we had the last dynasty.
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This will make life interesting and probably disruptive in the locker room, and for the transfer portal. What's next - trades?
I don't understand how this is continuous improvement and don't care that a lot of people agree with the law.
And I don't know if three years is long enough to sort out all the issues and questions that will surface.
College football players, with the help of the agents, will then want a players union . . . and college football as we know it will be a memory.
I don't understand how this is continuous improvement and don't care that a lot of people agree with the law.
And I don't know if three years is long enough to sort out all the issues and questions that will surface.
College football players, with the help of the agents, will then want a players union . . . and college football as we know it will be a memory.
no waddle wouldn’t have a chance unless they started making a waddle specific Jersey or something similar. He doesn’t own the #17. Nike and the University of Alabama does.
The reason EA got busted for “likeness” was because they went from using generic player models to models that were crafted to look like the players that were currently playing, and some former players without their consent. That is why “likeness” was used in the o’bannon trial. It had nothing to do with the number on his jersey.
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And if you think it will stop at logic and common sense you are wrong. Mary and Johns who sit on juries love giving away a company’s money. This is just the beginning. It won’t end well
This will not end well.
I thought it was a travesty that they took Thorpe's gold medal away.
I thought it was unfair when American Olympians had to compete against compensated professionals.
I was for stipends.
Heck, I didn't even want to extend the college football season (ironically some of the same people arguing that these guys are taken advantage of were all for making them play more games). Having said all that, I reiterate that this won't end well.
Amateur sports exist in an environment where they are funded by people who love the sport. There's a reason more people cram into some college stadiums than many NFL stadiums, there's a reason so much money is donated. There's an entire support structure that exists in this environment. Contrast that with semi-professional sports and you'll see a lot of empty seats and bankruptcy.
Of course California is pushing this, their schools have lost relevancy, and they see it as another way to push a progressive agenda. The bill was signed with someone who never played college sports in his life standing next to the Governor. Think about that. That's kind of where this is headed, to simply undo college sports as we know it.
I thought it was a travesty that they took Thorpe's gold medal away.
I thought it was unfair when American Olympians had to compete against compensated professionals.
I was for stipends.
Heck, I didn't even want to extend the college football season (ironically some of the same people arguing that these guys are taken advantage of were all for making them play more games). Having said all that, I reiterate that this won't end well.
Amateur sports exist in an environment where they are funded by people who love the sport. There's a reason more people cram into some college stadiums than many NFL stadiums, there's a reason so much money is donated. There's an entire support structure that exists in this environment. Contrast that with semi-professional sports and you'll see a lot of empty seats and bankruptcy.
Of course California is pushing this, their schools have lost relevancy, and they see it as another way to push a progressive agenda. The bill was signed with someone who never played college sports in his life standing next to the Governor. Think about that. That's kind of where this is headed, to simply undo college sports as we know it.
California isn't pushing this. Many states are putting forward similar bills, including South Carolina. Yeah, Clemson is in SC. Is football in SC irrelevant?
I don't mind that folks are opposed to this, but slippery slope arguments don't carry any weight. They imagine the worst while ignoring the possibility that change might actually create improvement. They substitute straw men for real debate.
I don't mind that folks are opposed to this, but slippery slope arguments don't carry any weight. They imagine the worst while ignoring the possibility that change might actually create improvement. They substitute straw men for real debate.
I don't see how there could be any competition, some would say it's not that competitive now. I'd agree, but there are about 10 teams every year that have a realistic shot and different teams come in and out of that group and the mostly eliminate themselves till the end. Outside of that group though you've got the occasional spoilers. If this law goes national I think it would be far worse. You'd probably have between 3 and 1 team that will be competing for the championship, those teams would likely never change, and spoilers wouldn't exist.
What's more I'm pretty sure Nick Saban will retire if this becomes a reality. He quit pro ball for a reason.
What's more I'm pretty sure Nick Saban will retire if this becomes a reality. He quit pro ball for a reason.
You do realize you can appeal up to SCOTUS which isn’t a jury trial, and almost always rules in favor of the law of the land over emotional judgment. I think you fear too much and don’t see the long road of appeals that would eventually overrule a jury that is probably unfamiliar with the law.
Off the top of my head:
*By taking the next step in the elimination of the NCAA - or at least in its transformation into something less corrupt.
*By taking everything that is already happening and bringing it out into the light (players getting paid).
*By creating an environment in which players might actually stay for their 4th year instead of leaving early for the draft because they can get paid openly instead of risking everything in hopes of being drafted (remember, many who leave early do not get drafter or make NFL teams). This helps the schools and the players.
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