Auburn’s defensive effort, scheme vs. LSU show why Kevin Steele is 1 of nation’s best

JustNeedMe81 · Oct 30, 2019

https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2...ow-why-kevin-steele-is-1-of-nations-best.html

Steele knew his defense faced a daunting challenge that week, going up against what was the nation’s No. 2 scoring offense in LSU. No team had really been able to slow down that high-flying attack, which entered last week averaging north of 50 points per game, but Steele had something up his sleeve that he thought would do the trick — a completely new, 3-1-7 look on defense that Auburn had yet to show on film.

The scheme varied greatly from Auburn’s typical base defense, which is a 4-2-5 nickel with four down linemen, two linebackers and five defensive backs (three corners and two safeties). It was also a different look than the dime package that the team also utilizes, which features six defensive backs.
When Auburn’s defense took the field for the first time against LSU on Saturday, it did so with three defensive linemen: Derrick Brown, Marlon Davidson and Big Kat Bryant; one linebacker in freshman Owen Pappoe; and seven defensive backs — three corners (Javaris Davis, Noah Igbinoghene and Roger McCreary) and four safeties (Jeremiah Dinson, Daniel Thomas, Jamien Sherwood and Smoke Monday).

The purpose of the new scheme, according to defensive backs coach Marcus Woodson, was to close the passing windows that Burrow and LSU typically liked to exploit in their passing attack. For the most part, it worked and slowed LSU’s offense, holding it more than 27 points below its season average.

The reason I posted the article is because I've mentioned Auburn's odd formation several times in the last few days because I was real impressed with how it was used in the game. I really hope that Saban find a way to use it in the game (not all the time.)

B1GTide · Oct 30, 2019

JustNeedMe81 said:
The reason I posted the article is because I've mentioned Auburn's odd formation several times in the last few days because I was real impressed with how it was used in the game. I really hope that Saban find a way to use it in the game (not all the time.)

Just remember that LSU knows that Alabama is looking at that film, and they have an extra week to prepare a plan to address the approach taken by Auburn. I am not saying that it won't work. Alabama has much better DBs. But expect LSU to have some wrinkles to address it. Their OC is very young, but he is also very bright.

JustNeedMe81 · Oct 30, 2019

B1GTide said:
Just remember that LSU knows that Alabama is looking at that film, and they have an extra week to prepare a plan to address the approach taken by Auburn. I am not saying that it won't work. Alabama has much better DBs. But expect LSU to have some wrinkles to address it. Their OC is very young, but he is also very bright.

Fair enough.

Tug Tide · Oct 30, 2019

B1GTide said:
Their OC is very young, but he is also very bright.

Just pickin nits here, but Brady is the passing game coordinator/receiver coach. Ensminger is still the OC. I realize just how much Brady has influenced the massive change in their schemes.

AlexanderFan · Oct 30, 2019

Serious question: is this OC really that genius, or is LSU finally utilizing the offensive talent they have?

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B1GTide · Oct 30, 2019

AlexanderFan said:
Serious question: is this OC really that genius, or is LSU finally utilizing the offensive talent they have?

He did not invent the RPO offense, so no. But he is calling plays like Locksley did at Alabama last year. Same offense, same plays, same tendency to set up big plays with short plays. He is Mike Locksley. But can he adjust when he has to? No one knows.

Tug Tide · Oct 30, 2019

Ed will have us believe that Ensminger is calling the plays with suggestions from Brady. Who knows just how much influence he has.
I read on TigerDroppings that the LSU and Saints staffs got together for a coaching clinic/brainstorming session and Joe Brady took over the room for the Saints O presentation.

Edit: I’ve now seen where Ed has stated that Brady does some of the play calling

AlexanderFan · Oct 30, 2019

We don’t have three defensive linemen of that caliber to put on the field like they do. Possibly Barmore, Jennings, and Lewis?

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atlbama · Oct 30, 2019

B1GTide said:
He did not invent the RPO offense, so no. But he is calling plays like Locksley did at Alabama last year. Same offense, same plays, same tendency to set up big plays with short plays. He is Mike Locksley. But can he adjust when he has to? No one knows.

I posted this on another thread but if the offense is similar to Locksley, look no further than the Clemson game vs Bama. One of the most effective things they did was make very last second changes in coverage resulting in bad pre-snap reads and/or affecting timing. (Oh, and they had NFL talent on D-line

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JustNeedMe81 · Oct 30, 2019

AlexanderFan said:
We don’t have three defensive linemen of that caliber to put on the field like they do. Possibly Barmore, Jennings, and Lewis?

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DJ Dale.

AlexanderFan · Oct 30, 2019

JustNeedMe81 said:
DJ Dale.

We need at least two more, if they can successfully affect the quarterback with certain guys we could almost dictate audibles.

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JustNeedMe81 · Oct 30, 2019

B1GTide said:
He did not invent the RPO offense, so no. But he is calling plays like Locksley did at Alabama last year. Same offense, same plays, same tendency to set up big plays with short plays. He is Mike Locksley. But can he adjust when he has to? No one knows.

quick background on Joe Brady: https://www.theadvertiser.com/story...e-brady-wants-draw-fast-and-often/2108150001/

So, I hope Brady has a plan for when QB has to hold ball longer.... Its possible that teams are now figuring this guys out and Steele was the first one... Either way Brady will get his shot in NFL as a OC somewhere.

B1GTide · Oct 30, 2019

atlbama said:
I posted this on another thread but if the offense is similar to Locksley, look no further than the Clemson game vs Bama. One of the most effective things they did was make very last second changes in coverage resulting in bad pre-snap reads and/or affecting timing. (Oh, and they had NFL talent on D-line )

That is what Auburn did. They followed Clemson's blueprint against Alabama.

JustNeedMe81 · Oct 30, 2019

AlexanderFan said:
We need at least two more, if they can successfully affect the quarterback with certain guys we could almost dictate audibles.

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Eboidge ( spelled his name wrong) young, Wynn Jr or mathis.

EnterBama · Oct 30, 2019

atlbama said:
I posted this on another thread but if the offense is similar to Locksley, look no further than the Clemson game vs Bama. One of the most effective things they did was make very last second changes in coverage resulting in bad pre-snap reads and/or affecting timing. (Oh, and they had NFL talent on D-line )

I doubt we change our defensive scheme(s) much. Our offenses are similar. Our defensive guys go up against it every day of practice. The two things we'll have to do for certain is play their receivers close and aggressive to hinder timing AND unleash Lewis and Jennings like they haven't been unleashed before.

If we do those two things well we'll slow LSWho's offense down and maybe pick up a turnover or two.

Ledsteplin · Oct 30, 2019

B1GTide said:
Just remember that LSU knows that Alabama is looking at that film, and they have an extra week to prepare a plan to address the approach taken by Auburn. I am not saying that it won't work. Alabama has much better DBs. But expect LSU to have some wrinkles to address it. Their OC is very young, but he is also very bright.

That's true, but it (or something similar) still might prove the best defense against Burrow's passing. Even if they expect it and prepare for it. I wish we could put on a great pass rush, that would keep Burrow off balance. I think CNS and CPG will come up with a good plan.

CajunCrimson · Oct 30, 2019

This is the game where missing Moses will be the most critical.....

He had the speed to keep up with TEs and RBs....but the thump-a-bility vs the Run OR to be used on the edge in pressure....

jashleyren2 · Oct 30, 2019

I will say that people focusing purely on Burrow and the air game are missing the fact that LSU can run. The back they used so heavily, who's name is long and I don't want to type it, is a beast. He was running and carrying AU's vaunted defensive line in the second half, as they grew tired. We have been in the same boat this year, with our defense being thin already, and starters getting tired.

LSU's objective will be to have long scoring drives. That's what Coach O wants. A little at a time. They won't come out airing it out downfield. They won't put themselves into positions for negative plays. It will be always moving forward. ALABAMA NEEDS TO HAVE THE EXACT SAME OFFENSIVE PHILOSOPHY.

I'm just stunned at how often the two programs are mirror images of each other, regardless of who their coach is. All else being equal, Orgeron is not Saban, and I like our guy better.

Saban4Ever · Oct 30, 2019

jashleyren2 said:
I will say that people focusing purely on Burrow and the air game are missing the fact that LSU can run. The back they used so heavily, who's name is long and I don't want to type it, is a beast. He was running and carrying AU's vaunted defensive line in the second half, as they grew tired. We have been in the same boat this year, with our defense being thin already, and starters getting tired.

LSU's objective will be to have long scoring drives. That's what Coach O wants. A little at a time. They won't come out airing it out downfield. They won't put themselves into positions for negative plays. It will be always moving forward. ALABAMA NEEDS TO HAVE THE EXACT SAME OFFENSIVE PHILOSOPHY.

I'm just stunned at how often the two programs are mirror images of each other, regardless of who their coach is. All else being equal, Orgeron is not Saban, and I like our guy better.

That's my biggest concern other than Tua's health and Burrow is the LSU run game. I think that will be one of the deciding factors of the game.. can our defense stop their run game with the new offense they have?

JustNeedMe81 · Oct 30, 2019

perfect time to drop this nugget: https://coachhoover.blogspot.com/2019/08/creepers-vs-simulated-pressures.html

LSU DC Dave Aranda and Alabama DC Pete Golding are two of the best at running these replacement pressures and they were both mentored by the same person, ULL DC Ron Roberts.

[FONT="arial" ]Both Creepers and Simulated Pressures are pressures that bring a 2nd or 3rd level defender, a LB or DB, in exchange for dropping a 1st level defender on the DL. These “extra safe” pressures only require 4 rushers and do not sacrifice coverage in pressuring Offenses. Also, Creepers can be either Man or Zone and Simulated Pressures can be either Man or Zone. [/FONT]

Definitely explain why Jenning kept dropping back in coverage.... But anyway, reason I dropped this link: Golding have better personnel than LSU to deploy this. If LSU runs same concept.... then RPO wouldn't be easy to run on them.

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