Link: Ohio House Passes Bill to Protect Students from Knowledge

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I expected something like this from Alabama or Mississippi. I thought Ohio was supposed to be a moderate state.
 

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“On the Origin of the Species” was published in 1859 so creationists have only had 160 years to disprove the theory of evolution. Any day now.


A few years back one of the pastors at my church compared the likelihood that evolution occurring was similar to the chances of a BMW motor putting itself together if all the parts were in the same room. Bless his heart.

It is truly surprising this is happening in Ohio rather than a southern state.
 

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“On the Origin of the Species” was published in 1859 so creationists have only had 160 years to disprove the theory of evolution. Any day now.


A few years back one of the pastors at my church compared the likelihood that evolution occurring was similar to the chances of a BMW motor putting itself together if all the parts were in the same room. Bless his heart.

It is truly surprising this is happening in Ohio rather than a southern state.

the State the continues to re-elect Jim Jordan can claim no superiority over anyone
 

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A few years ago, there was lots of talk about a flying spagetti monster or something equally ridiculous, that was the center of worship for the religion he led. Of course, it was made up to emphasize how bizarre things could get if we start accommodating each religion's priorities.

And then of course there's the Rasta men from Jamacia, who claim smoking herb is their way of worship. Higher Heights.

And then we have the Satanic Religion, that has sponsored to putting up statues of the devil in public places.

Why can't these religious nuts pushing this stuff see it makes them no better than the Muslim clerics they are so worried about?
 

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the State the continues to re-elect Jim Jordan can claim no superiority over anyone
I'm represented by Mo Brooks. Once he figures out he should take of his jacket off for one of his televised rants, he may give Jordan a run for his money.
 

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I'm represented by Mo Brooks. Once he figures out he should take of his jacket off for one of his televised rants, he may give Jordan a run for his money.

Pretty sure Mo didn't look the other way as athletes he was supposed to care for were being molested by a serial molester over more than a decade. I mean I get that Mo is a nutbag but I think even he isn't that kind of evil
 

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A few years ago, there was lots of talk about a flying spagetti monster or something equally ridiculous, that was the center of worship for the religion he led. Of course, it was made up to emphasize how bizarre things could get if we start accommodating each religion's priorities.

And then of course there's the Rasta men from Jamacia, who claim smoking herb is their way of worship. Higher Heights.

And then we have the Satanic Religion, that has sponsored to putting up statues of the devil in public places.

Why can't these religious nuts pushing this stuff see it makes them no better than the Muslim clerics they are so worried about?
because they are right

seriously that is their answer

If this law would have been in place while I was in highschool I would have a perfect 4.0 in all science classes. I would have exploited this until my parents stopped me or I ended up in court

I look forward to seeing what the Satanic Temple's response is if this actually becomes law
 

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Depends on how the questions are worded. I had many biology classes through college and medical school. Professors appropriately phrased the questions with, “According to the theory of...” or “Based upon Darwin’s findings...” with no issues in getting the intended answers. Science can be taught in the classroom without relegating the religious as uninformed.

The best scientists assert their conclusions while also stating the limitations of their research. There are some things that cannot be observed and are thus theorized as the best possible atheistic proposals. But they remain theories, and we would do well to be honest about that. I know the difference between faith and scientific theory and law. I believe there is a God. So if a student wants to miss a question on comparing the theories of Scientists X and Y based on religious grounds, it should be counted wrong, so long as the question is not intended to portray the theories as fact if they cannot be proven as fact.
 
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Depends on how the questions are worded. I had many biology classes through college and medical school. Professors appropriately phrased the questions with, “According to the theory of...” or “Based upon Darwin’s findings...” with no issues in getting the intended answers. Science can be taught in the classroom without relegating the religious as uninformed.

The best scientists assert their conclusions while also stating the limitations of their research. There are some things that cannot be observed and are thus theorized as the best possible atheistic proposals. But they remain theories, and we would do well to be honest about that. I know the difference between faith and scientific theory and law. I believe there is a God. So if a student wants to miss a question on comparing the theories of Scientists X and Y based on religious grounds, it should be counted wrong, so long as the question is not intended to portray the theories as fact if they cannot be proven as fact.
The word "theory" has a specific scientific meaning. Here is a good explanation...

Live Science
 

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Completely on board with the lay vs scientific meanings. My main emphasis is that science has limitations. When those limitations are reached, we do ourselves a significant disservice to continue past them with claims as if those claims are irrefutable.

The word "theory" has a specific scientific meaning. Here is a good explanation...

Live Science
 
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Completely on board with the lay vs scientific meanings. My main emphasis is that science has limitations. When those limitations are reached, we do ourselves a significant disservice to continue past them with claims as if those claims are irrefutable.
I trust you don't take that approach with the theory of gravitation like you do with the theory of evolution. Pretty irrefutable that you can't exit a ten story building safely from a window with no fire exit
 

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I trust you don't take that approach with the theory of gravitation like you do with the theory of evolution. Pretty irrefutable that you can't exit a ten story building safely from a window with no fire exit
One is observable in real time, the other is not.


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Completely on board with the lay vs scientific meanings. My main emphasis is that science has limitations. When those limitations are reached, we do ourselves a significant disservice to continue past them with claims as if those claims are irrefutable.
How much of a disservice is done by attributing everything that can’t be explained by science to a magical sky being?
 

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