Poll: Should the CFP expand?

Should the CFP expand beyond four teams?


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USCBAMA

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While I won't disagree that Clemson's schedule is soft - it's not their fault. Dabo has been scheduling tough out of conference games (Auburn H/H, Georgia H/H, ATM H/H) for years. It's not his fault the Aggies stink.



SoS is one of the most bogus stats and arguments folks can use. It's not meaningless - it's just "almost" meaningless.

If Clemson isn't any good, they're going to lose in the playoff anyway.
If they ARE good, it doesn't matter they played a bunch of pansies.
When a team's conference schedule is putrid, maybe their standard for OOC scheduling should be more than one tough game in some years. I mean, last 2 years they were H-H with TAM, and that literally was their toughest regular season game each year. For Bama, TAM is the 3rd or 4th toughest game they play in their Division. You have to compare whole schedule, not just OOC, and Clemson's whole schedule is not good, and stays bad next 4 years with the only legit top 25 team scheduled being Notre Dame. In 2021 they play SC State, Wyoming, UConn, & South Carolina - it's just bad.

One big advantage of playing a schedule that allows you to coast most of the season is having a fresher, healthier team at end of season. Clemson will go into cfp relatively injury-free for second year in a row. A big part of Bama losing last year and missing cfp this year is it's team being so banged up. Sure Clemson is good and can compete with anyone, but isn't that even more of a reason to develop a system that encourages them to schedule other top teams. Current system literally discourages them from doing so.
 

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When a team's conference schedule is putrid, maybe their standard for OOC scheduling should be more than one tough game in some years. I mean, last 2 years they were H-H with TAM, and that literally was their toughest regular season game each year.
Ok, so just now tell me how in the hell someone is going to know their conference is going to be awful years in advance.

How was Clemson supposed to know that Florida St - #3 on opening day in 2017 - was going to flatline?
In 2016, Lamar Jackson won the Heisman and Louisville was a tough foe. How were they supposed to know the Cards would fall that far?

In 2016, the ACC thumped the SEC and won 10 out of 14 head-to-head contests.

How was Clemson going to know that in just two years that league would implode?


For Bama, TAM is the 3rd or 4th toughest game they play in their Division. You have to compare whole schedule, not just OOC,
I agree up to a point - the reason the OOC is emphasized is because:
a) the conference schedule is determined by the league office while teams make their own games OOC
b) conference games are a ZERO SUM in determining strength because a win for one team is necessarily a loss for the other


and Clemson's whole schedule is not good,
The ACC part of their schedule isn't their fault, though. And that's 2/3 of it.


and stays bad next 4 years with the only legit top 25 team scheduled being Notre Dame. In 2021 they play SC State, Wyoming, UConn, & South Carolina - it's just bad.
But neither you nor I know how good SC is going to be in 2021. It's an in-state rivalry that's been contested every year consecutively since 1909 (and oh yeah, Clemson lost FIVE IN A ROW to them early in Dabo's career and nobody complained about SC).



One big advantage of playing a schedule that allows you to coast most of the season is having a fresher, healthier team at end of season.
Well that's a good theory - but didn't Tua get hurt in a game where we were already leading 35-7?

And haven't we lost guy after guy year after year playing teams like WKU?

Clemson will go into cfp relatively injury-free for second year in a row.
Didn't one of Clemson's best defensive players miss the post-season last year due to a drug test?

And isn't the biggest contributor to that Clemson's depth because they haven't gone through a ten-year period losing guys to the NFL early every single year?

A big part of Bama losing last year and missing cfp this year is it's team being so banged up.
I'd say the turnovers against Clemson and the blown coverages hurt us more last year.
Come to think of it, didn't we throw two pick sixes that lost the Auburn game as well as miss
a bunch of tackles??

Sure Clemson is good and can compete with anyone, but isn't that even more of a reason to develop a system that encourages them to schedule other top teams. Current system literally discourages them from doing so.
The problem is that the committee has ensured tough scheduling won't happen. Look at Ohio St in 2017. What lesson do you think they drew from that one?

"We only lost out to Alabama because one loss versus two - but if we had played Central Michigan instead of losing to Oklahoma, we'd have made the playoff."

The truth is that the powers don't play much of anybody most years.

Clemson basically had a one-game season.
Alabama had a two-game season as did Minnesota and Penn St.
Ohio State had a three-game regular season and a rematch.

Go back most years and except for 2015 Alabama, most of the teams had schedules like that. It's going to take a two-loss team getting in over an unbeaten to change the scheduling.
 
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