Uighurs and their supporters decry Chinese ‘concentration camps,’ ‘genocide’ ...

crimsonaudio · Nov 18, 2019

The Times called the documents “one of the most significant leaks of government papers from inside China’s ruling Communist Party in decades” and a strong indication that turmoil within the ruling party is rising over the repression of the Muslim Uighurs.

The papers confirm reports that more than 1 million people have been detained in internment camps as the Chinese government seeks to strip Uighurs of their identity and indoctrinate them into being secular and loyal party supporters.

Xi still told party members in secret speeches that religious extremists should be treated with “absolutely no mercy,” the Times reported.

The documents included a script for officials to follow when explaining to students returning to the region why their parents had disappeared, the Times reported.

The World Uyghur Congress called China a “country with concentration camps” in a retweet.

Uighurs and their supporters decry Chinese ‘concentration camps,’ ‘genocide’ after Xinjiang documents leaked

Lest we forget how awful the Chinese government is...

Jon · Nov 18, 2019

crimsonaudio said:
Uighurs and their supporters decry Chinese ‘concentration camps,’ ‘genocide’ after Xinjiang documents leaked

Lest we forget how awful the Chinese government is...

what is going on in China is disgusting but not sure we can do anything about it at this point

crimsonaudio · Nov 18, 2019

Jon said:
what is going on in China is disgusting but not sure we can do anything about it at this point

Oh, there's nothing we can do. Not really our job to, anyway. Just like to remind people how awful that government is whenever possible. I believe history will show the Chinese to be equal to or worse than Nazi Germany when all is said and done.

92tide · Nov 18, 2019

crimsonaudio said:
Oh, there's nothing we can do. Not really our job to, anyway. Just like to remind people how awful that government is whenever possible. I believe history will show the Chinese to be equal to or worse than Nazi Germany when all is said and done.

they are probably going to show us exactly who they are with all of the stuff in hong kong too. that seems to be getting much worse.

crimsonaudio · Nov 18, 2019

92tide said:
they are probably going to show us exactly who they are with all of the stuff in hong kong too. that seems to be getting much worse.

It will be interesting. Something is holding them back form using unfettered force, likely the long-standing international business relationships. Otherwise they would have crushed this already.

92tide · Nov 18, 2019

crimsonaudio said:
It will be interesting. Something is holding them back form using unfettered force, likely the long-standing international business relationships. Otherwise they would have crushed this already.

i just have this sinking feeling that when/if it does break, it is going to be godawful

Jon · Nov 18, 2019

92tide said:
i just have this sinking feeling that when/if it does break, it is going to be godawful

and that they will cover it up and get away with it. Much like Tiananmen Square

crimsonaudio · Nov 18, 2019

Jon said:
and that they will cover it up and get away with it. Much like Tiananmen Square

I dunno - with the way the world is connected now, i'm not sure they can cover it up like they did TS...

I sure hope they can't.

92tide · Nov 18, 2019

Jon said:
and that they will cover it up and get away with it. Much like Tiananmen Square

i know they will try. i hope that the world is too connected now for that to actually happen

Go Bama · Nov 18, 2019

There was a similar article in the NYT Saturday. It’s a deplorable situation.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/china-xinjiang-documents.html

The students booked their tickets home at the end of the semester, hoping for a relaxing break after exams and a summer of happy reunions with family in China’s far west.Instead, they would soon be told that their parents were gone, relatives had vanished and neighbors were missing — all of them locked up in an expanding network of detention camps built to hold Muslim ethnic minorities.

The article goes on to talk about how the students parents release is dependent upon the student not causing trouble. It’s basically extortion.
I don’t see how this is economically sustainable for China. They are removing a large pat of the workforce in the province.

it cannot be over emphasized how important it is to keep government small. In any form of government evil people will eventually find their way into power. The Chinese are stuck with what they have.

Go Bama · Nov 18, 2019

92tide said:
i just have this sinking feeling that when/if it does break, it is going to be godawful

I agree.

TexasBama · Nov 18, 2019

crimsonaudio said:
Oh, there's nothing we can do. Not really our job to, anyway. Just like to remind people how awful that government is whenever possible. I believe history will show the Chinese to be equal to or worse than Nazi Germany when all is said and done.

If you project back through Mao, it's definitely on par with Hitler and Stalin. Millions dead.

crimsonaudio · Nov 18, 2019

TexasBama said:
If you project back through Mao, it's definitely on par with Hitler and Stalin. Millions dead.

Oh, you go back that far and the Chinese make the Soviets and the Nazis look like amateurs...

I'm talking about the Chinese of the last decade or three. The 'modern' Chinese...

2003TIDE · Nov 18, 2019

There are reports now of the Chinese loading HK protesters onto trains back to mainland China. I’m sure everyone knows how that is going to end.

G-VilleTider · Nov 18, 2019

2003TIDE said:
There are reports now of the Chinese loading HK protesters onto trains back to mainland China. I’m sure everyone knows how that is going to end.

Half off all organ transplants for black friday?

2003TIDE · Nov 18, 2019

G-VilleTider said:
Half off all organ transplants for black friday?

Pretty much

crimsonaudio · Nov 18, 2019

We have to keep talking about this, it's all we can do, but maybe - maybe - it can help the world put pressure on the dirtbag commies.

G-VilleTider · Nov 18, 2019

crimsonaudio said:
We have to keep talking about this, it's all we can do, but maybe - maybe - it can help the world put pressure on the dirtbag commies.

Will Hong Kong be China's Rhineland? And Taiwan, Austria or Poland? I am both saddened and afraid of how cyclical history truly is.

2003TIDE · Nov 19, 2019

crimsonaudio said:
We have to keep talking about this, it's all we can do, but maybe - maybe - it can help the world put pressure on the dirtbag commies.

The only thing that would put pressure on them is if the G7 countries and their allies applied serious economic pressure. I'm not talking tariff type pressure. I'm talking total economic ban type pressure. Which will never happen.

Elefantman · Nov 19, 2019

2003TIDE said:
The only thing that would put pressure on them is if the G7 countries and their allies applied serious economic pressure. I'm not talking tariff type pressure. I'm talking total economic ban type pressure. Which will never happen.

It doesn't matter what's the language; Money talks

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