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Besides my personal outlook, purely analytically speaking:

Biden has made a habit of telling people to go vote for someone else or vote for Trump. I mean I tell folks maybe they should just go fash instead of making the Dems diet fash but I’m also not running for President.
 

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Besides my personal outlook, purely analytically speaking:

Biden has made a habit of telling people to go vote for someone else or vote for Trump. I mean I tell folks maybe they should just go fash instead of making the Dems diet fash but I’m also not running for President.
If you see Biden as a fascist then you have totally lost your perspective.
 
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Guy who has been a dog whistling democrat his entire career and only has more of the black vote because Obama had to pick him to ease PUMA Democrats in 2008?

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I'm not a bro. I'm an adult who knows history, politics, and in possession of a functioning brain not rotted out by decades of propaganda. Biden is an incredibly problematic politician propped up by the financial industry that runs his state.
 
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I'm not a bro. I'm an adult who knows history, politics, and in possession of a functioning brain not rotted out by decades of propaganda. Biden is an incredibly problematic politician propped up by the financial industry that runs his state.
that montage of headlines was some nice propaganda. there are not as many socialists in this country as you seem to think.
 

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that montage of headlines was some nice propaganda. there are not as many socialists in this country as you seem to think.
Truth is not propaganda. I know that is tough for limp, diffident libs to understand. He's consistently been an accomplice to the GOP living within the DNP. This is backed up by his comments and voting habits over a long career.
 
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Truth is not propaganda. I know that is tough for limp, diffident libs to understand.
you can take the name calling and stick it.

first off, bernie is not actually a democrat, so i don't take it very seriously when his supporters whine about how biden isn't a real democrat.

second, i remember the last time an "outsider" was going to shake things up, and let everyone know that they are the one and only person who can do it.
 
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The centrist liberal are accomplices to the fall of this country. There is no middle ground to strike with the right wing. Liberals are just the left wing of fascism in this country.
 
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If Bernie gets elected he will not be able to pass much socialist legislation because of congress. The difference between Bernie and Biden with this congress will mainly be cosmetic.
 
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I think Bloomberg's a snake in the grass.

I'm loving the ads trashing Trump he's putting up, but these billionaires pumping tons of money in the primaries make it harder for the grass roots candidates to compete in the marketing arena. The price of ads is is going through the roof when you have one candidate outspending all others by a substantial amount.

My hesitation revolves around how he continued to defend his "stop and frisk" policy for years after it had been widely discredited. He was adamant that it was the correct thing to do long after it was obvious it wasn't.

If it comes down to Bloomberg and Trump of course I'm voting Dem, but I'm really hoping that isn't our final choice. At that point, the best we can hope for is that maybe we have a benevolent supremely rich President rather that a malevolent one.
 
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Bloomberg is an insurance policy for an increasingly probable Biden collapse to create a contested convention so the party power structure can screw Sanders. Of course if they do that, the Sanders delegates will walk and the party will be broken.

I'm happy Sanders' ground game is strong enough that the party is very much wary to do this but they have left the option to do it. I'm glad that if nothing else the Sanders base is a Sword of Damocles hanging over the party's head forcing them to move to the left because I do not believe we can save this country for my children with the prevailing moderation and right-wing appeasement approach of the last 40 years.
 
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Bernie is just not electable. There is an entire generation of baby boomers who think socialism is a bad word. The Trump camp thinks beating Sanders will be easy and they want him to win the nomination.

I have the same issue with Warren.
Unless you live in a swing state, voting for POTUS is basically a pallative act. I'll vote for Bernie v. Trump (I'll vote for a fire hydrant v. Trump), but the game is who can win the swing states. Personally, I think Bernie is a Huey P. Long rerun.
 
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Personally, I think Bernie is Huey P. Long rerun.
Personally, I think it is utterly absurd to compared Bernie Sanders to a man who aligned himself with Father Coughlin. Sanders has been one of the most consistent supporters of civil rights for maligned communities among any in his generational cohort in this race. When Sanders was marching for civil rights, Biden was basically saying things one hair removed from segregationist talk.
 

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