2020 Presidential Election Part V

[81usaf92]

One thing we can say is Trump voters are more enthusiastic about their cookies.

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So cookie sales, Lictman predictions, and Trafalgar polls are all on the line. Go figure.

 

[crimsonaudio]

I think Biden wins this but...

I can't help but chuckle / shake my head that this isn't an absolute blowout of biblical proportions. Maybe it will be, but I doubt it. On one side we have the current president who is about as bad as anything anyone could have imagined, and on the other side we have the least inspirational candidate imaginable.

It's actually quite humorous when you stop back and look at it. This is the 'best' we have to choose from, LOL.

 

[92tide]

I think Biden wins this but...

I can't help but chuckle / shake my head that this isn't an absolute blowout of biblical proportions. Maybe it will be, but I doubt it. On one side we have the current president who is about as bad as anything anyone could have imagined, and on the other side we have the least inspirational candidate imaginable.

It's actually quite humorous when you stop back and look at it. This is the 'best' we have to choose from, LOL.

but i thought hillary was the least inspirational candidate imaginable

 

[B1GTide]

but i thought hillary was the least inspirational candidate imaginable

She was despised. Biden is something different.

 

[dayhiker]

but i thought hillary was the least inspirational candidate imaginable

She was until this year.

 

[crimsonaudio]

but i thought hillary was the least inspirational candidate imaginable

She was very inspirational - it's why we're stuck with Trump...

Realistically, Biden would have had a zero percent chance of beating any other republican candidate in decades.

 

[81usaf92]

She was very inspirational - it's why we're stuck with Trump...

Realistically, Biden would have had a zero percent chance of beating any other republican candidate in decades.

It really depends on what Biden you are talking about. This version sure, but Biden was a lot stronger 4 years ago. I don’t think Biden could’ve beaten Dubya or Reagan but I believe he couldve been Dole, Daddy Bush, and McCain. I sure as hell know he could’ve beaten Romney.

 

[TexasBama]

PA worries me. Always has since my first wife...

My first was from Oklahoma. Thankfully I've only had to overflight on the way to Wichita a few times in the past 28 years.

 

[crimsonaudio]

It really depends on what Biden you are talking about. This version sure, but Biden was a lot stronger 4 years ago. I don’t think Biden could’ve beaten Dubya or Reagan but I believe he couldve been Dole, Daddy Bush, and McCain. I sure as hell know he could’ve beaten Romney.

Maybe, but he wasn't the candidate four years ago. Lots of guys stay past their prime.

Biden's #1 draw in 2020 is that he's "not Trump". That's fine, but if he gets more votes than Obama did, no one is going to argue that it's because he motivated the people to support him. Trump did that.

 

[UAH]

It really depends on what Biden you are talking about. This version sure, but Biden was a lot stronger 4 years ago. I don’t think Biden could’ve beaten Dubya or Reagan but I believe he couldve been Dole, Daddy Bush, and McCain. I sure as hell know he could’ve beaten Romney.

He would have been a stronger candidate four years ago and there are a number of reasons, personal and political, why that didn't happen. When we consider what we are voting for in this election, Democracy or authoritarianism, the rule of law and and the Bill of Rights versus fascism, then Biden appears to be the most attractive candidate I have seen emerge in some time.

 

[dayhiker]

 

[dayhiker]

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Maybe, but he wasn't the candidate four years ago. Lots of guys stay past their prime.

Biden's #1 draw in 2020 is that he's "not Trump". That's fine, but if he gets more votes than Obama did, no one is going to argue that it's because he motivated the people to support him. Trump did that.

I agree with this. He's never been the most dynamic candidate. In his area, they reelected him as a senator but he's always been a self-destroying gaffe machine as a presidential candidate. However, I'd argue that he certainly became the perfect candidate. His bumps fit all Trump's holes - empathetic, intelligent, not a science denier. Even his gaffes are largely ignored now. As you say, he's the "anti-Trump." No one could say Hillary fit that description...

 

[92tide]

if this is a blue wave election, will that count as a defeat of biblical proportions? it seems like there is a decent shot of that happening.

 

[92tide]

Maybe, but he wasn't the candidate four years ago. Lots of guys stay past their prime.

Biden's #1 draw in 2020 is that he's "not Trump". That's fine, but if he gets more votes than Obama did, no one is going to argue that it's because he motivated the people to support him. Trump did that.

it may not be his biggest draw, but his biggest strength, imo, is that he is very competent and has a really solid grasp on all of the disparate policy/governing issues that our country is facing right now. i think that is a lot of what is behind all of his endorsement from former republicans, national security officials, etc.

which if you look at it's idealogical breadth and totality, is as far as I know, unprecedented.

while he's not an "ideal" candidate, i think he has actually "grown" into the moment quite well.

 

[B1GTide]

while he's not an "ideal" candidate, i think he has actually "grown" into the moment quite well.

I couldn't agree more. He has, and very much to my surprise.

 

[Bamaro]

As we keep on being reminded, its all about the turnout. It can range anywear from a close trump EC win and congressional status quo to a blue wave with Uncle Joe and both houses of congress. The Rs will turn out, hopefully the Ds and Is will too.

 

[seebell]

Madison County absentee election manager’s staff tripled to count record-breaking ballots

Madison County Circuit Clerk Debra Kizer said 25 people have been hired just to help count absentee ballots on Election Day.

www.waff.com

 

[JDCrimson]

It maybe just me, but if you can drive up in a car, validate your identity, and then have a q-tip shoved up into the nether regions of your brain for a covid test, then you should be more than capable 9f viting from a car...

 

[CharminTide]

Biden wasn't in my top 3 during the primary, but he's certainly grown into the moment.

I underestimated his ability to build a strong party coalition. Hillary never bothered with that and it was probably her undoing. But Biden has, and I honestly don't remember the last time I've seen #bernieorbust on social media.

I underestimated the degree to which Trump's daily lies and incoherence has inoculated us to any simple gaffes Biden might commit. They might have mattered 4 years ago, but they don't matter today.

I underestimated Biden's immunity to the GOP's "socialist" fearmongering, because everyone knows Joe is a centrist, even when he's running on the most progressive healthcare and climate agenda in the party's history.

I underestimated the degree to which this election might be won more on character than policy. Everyone knows that Biden is a good man, and everyone knows that Trump is not. From the response to the debates, I wonder if that alone might be enough.