Aaron Murry on Milroe (USF) (video)

[92tide]

I do not know why you do not clock it in that situation.
Glad they did not, but spike the ball, catch your breath, let the offensive play-caller call a play and under no circumstances do you throw that ball to anyone in the field of play. In the end zone so it is a TD or an incomplete. I realize it was "spur of the moment," but that is exactly why you clock it.

iirc, we had that drive stopped around mid-field and the refs made a completely bogus call on us to keep the drive alive

 

[tusks_n_raider]

USF played their butts off and credit to them for that. But realistically they shouldn't even be able to stay on the same field as a team with this much talent - even with Bama playing backups. I think it says more about what Bama DIDN'T do than what USF did.

This "same group of guys" at USF was a 6-6 team in the American Athletic Conference last year and their QB (while tough) can't hit the broad side of a barn. This Bama team should have been playing the third string in the 4th quarter, NOT still fighting to win the game. The fact that it was a game well into the 4th quarter should be embarrassing to our team, not just a case of "well USF played really well!"

My hope is that it will at least be a lesson that this team can build on going forward...

It’s probably a blessing in disguise to have such a difficult time 1 week before a challenging Road Test.

The OL shuffling was the #1 problem that gave us issues.

Guys playing out of their natural position coupled with trying to block/account for 7-8 defenders at a time.

It just created a lot of assignment confusion.

One of those guys probably wasn’t ready for it so it was really almost 7-8 vs 4. I don’t want to really single him out but the poor guy had a tough night.

But all that to say the struggles probably help us to not be over confident and realize any team can can give us a tough game if all 11 guys aren’t on the same page and doing their job.

I said 2 weeks ago I’d rather us struggle the 1st few games and fix the problems than have no trouble and not have an accurate picture of our weaknesses and I stand by that.

Hopefully we take care of business vs Wisc and then put the bye week to good use.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

i thought of this

I bet Murray can't even remember that hit. No doubt his memory was knocked out of him. The good ole days, where you could knock a UGA's QB head 50 yards downfield and nothing was called.

 

[merino]

Nobody is talking about JM’s lost fumbles---2 games thus far, and 2 already in the books

 

[smith5753]

As of today, UGA and Tennessee are guaranteed losses. Things can change, but it's hard to see us winning BOTH of those games, if one. I don't think LSU is very good, but since when has that mattered? I don't know if we can go 10-2 right now. I think 10-2 will fairly safely get us into the playoffs, but I just don't see it right now.

We honestly didn’t see it at this point in the season last year either so things can change. It is frustrating to feel like we’re seeing very similar problems from a year ago but there’s still a lot of football to be played. Some of our problems are correctable which is a good thing. Others, I think, are what they are and we roll with what we have.

 

[RammerJammer14]

Watched all of it. What I took from it was that Jalen's performance wasn't as good as the optimists made it out to be and wasn't as bad as the pessimists made it out to be. The way everyone was talking in that one thread, we had receivers running wide open every play, but I didn't see that in that breakdown. Instead I saw a few instances where Jalen should have gotten the ball out faster, but for the most part, he made the right decisions. The receivers, for whatever reason, just could not get separation. There were also a bunch of long developing routes given the pressure.

Yeah I’d don’t think Milroe was horrible. But he wasn’t good. The frustrating thing was that the USF game just confirmed my suspicions that all the talk of massive improvements over the off season was just people blowing smoke up our rear, and the team is in the exact same offensive position as it was for all of last season due to QB and line limitations. We look like the exact same team that limped through last season, lost to Texas, and needed a miracle (and an idiotic AU play call) to beat a bad Auburn team.

I would really like to see something different, but it just ain’t gonna happen. We are going to be a team that struggles against halfway decent competition because we can’t handle a blitz, but looks great in our cupcake games. People will point to random, meaningless statistics to prove everything is amazing and we will see how many skill players we still have for spring practice in 2025.

 

[Tidewater]

iirc, we had that drive stopped around mid-field and the refs made a completely bogus call on us to keep the drive alive

What I remember about that game (and you have posted the video before I believe) was, after an interception, an Alabama defensive player hitting Murray so hard it probably loosened his fillings.

Just saw the video snippet. Yep, that's the one. Head on a swivel, young man. If you are a QB who throws a pick, get your head on a swivel."

 

[Slowpoke Catracho]

Asked about the moment Monday, DeBoer said he couldn’t remember exactly what was said but he could remember


"It was probably just a lot of, ‘Hey, we’re always learning,’” DeBoer said. “I think that was the general theme of what I was sharing with him. ‘We’re always learning. It’s good to grind out a win in the fourth quarter.’ Just something along those lines that I think it had to do with, ‘You keep fighting for this reason. You’re gonna find a way to break through at some point if you just keep playing the game and let the game come back to you by competing.’”

Nick Sheridan, Kalen DeBoer evaluate Jalen Milroe’s play for Alabama football

Alabama football coaches Kalen DeBoer and Nick Sheridan gave their thoughts on the way quarterback Jalen Milroe has played in 2024 so far.

www.al.com

 

[4Q Basket Case]

We all see the shortcomings. But the GOAT and a really good coach have said through their personnel decisions that Milroe is our best chance to win.

They see all the practices and study every decision in detail. Either they know what they’re doing, or a bunch of TF posters are missing out on multi-million dollar incomes.

For now, I’ll take door #1, Monte.

I note that DeBoer and Sheridan are grasping for things to praise. Which tells me they see what we see, and have their own questions.

Let’s trust in leadership and let circumstances play out without re-hashing.

“If you listen to the fans, you’ll soon be sitting with them.”

 

[bamacpa]

Sheridan especially seemed to be searching more for the positives.

 

[64 Grad]

I drove from Tuscaloosa to Auburn in 1961 to watch the freshman game. I went with a friend who's brother was playing for Auburn. During the warm ups and in the game I kept wonder who our quarterback was because of the way he threw the football. Turned out it was Joe Namath. I have never had the same feeling about watching Milroe throw. Joe Namath was ahead of his time throwing the football.

 

[AlexanderFan]

We all see the shortcomings. But the GOAT and a really good coach have said through their personnel decisions that Milroe is our best chance to win.

They see all the practices and study every decision in detail. Either they know what they’re doing, or a bunch of TF posters are missing out on multi-million dollar incomes.

For now, I’ll take door #1, Monte.

I note that DeBoer and Sheridan are grasping for things to praise. Which tells me they see what we see, and have their own questions.

Let’s trust in leadership and let circumstances play out without re-hashing.

“If you listen to the fans, you’ll soon be sitting with them.”

There’s more to running a major college football program than just picking the starting lineup.

Let’s hope it gets adjusted and improved.

 

[BamaMoon]

Yeah I’d don’t think Milroe was horrible. But he wasn’t good. The frustrating thing was that the USF game just confirmed my suspicions that all the talk of massive improvements over the off season was just people blowing smoke up our rear, and the team is in the exact same offensive position as it was for all of last season due to QB and line limitations. We look like the exact same team that limped through last season, lost to Texas, and needed a miracle (and an idiotic AU play call) to beat a bad Auburn team.

I would really like to see something different, but it just ain’t gonna happen. We are going to be a team that struggles against halfway decent competition because we can’t handle a blitz, but looks great in our cupcake games. People will point to random, meaningless statistics to prove everything is amazing and we will see how many skill players we still have for spring practice in 2025.

I think you encapsulate exactly how I have felt last year, over the off-season and now into the early 2024 season.

The issues are bigger than "the nose on your face" but there are those who like "Bagdad Bob" saying "everything is fine." We had people over the summer promising us he would be the new and improved JM, but now, we are in the exact position we were last year. He looked like a champ in game one and in game two it's right back to the same ole same ole.

With this upcoming SEC schedule, rational people said it will be hard not to lose a couple of games, but that was with the "promise" JM will be an improved QB in 2024.

So if he's not, how's it looking now???

 

[CB4]

My late father would say “It is a location thing, son. You ARE where you ARE” . I guess this was the precursor to “It is what it is”.

At this point, Milroe is the starter. And he will continue to be the starter unless a collapse or injury removes him from it. And I certainly hope none of us wish either circumstance.

So lets hope the Oline play improves, we can lean in more to the running game and hope JM improves as the season wears on.

We are “dancing with what brung us” as Coach Bryant was fond of saying.

 

[BamaMoon]

I wish a reporter would have asked if there was ever a thought of giving TS a series when we were struggling in the 3rd and 4th quarters.

If they are weighting articles they want us to read and we are asking that question, why won't they???

 

[bamaga]

These plays have routes at different parts of the field. I posted three pics of plays Murray broke down and all three have receivers at a minimum of two other field levels. It is up to the QB to make the read to the best option. It appears in a lot of these "vertical" routes there is a trailing receiver slipped in behind the verticals, be it a TE or RB. This makes sense because if the verticals aren't open it means the trailer is there for a potential checkdown.

I commented live in the game thread, on one of the deep incompletions to Williams, and I think it was third down, but Caleb Odom was wide open down the seam and the safety already committed to over the top help on Williams . Probably a 10-15 yard shorter pass that would have probably been a TD.

 

[CB4]

I wish a reporter would have asked if there was ever a thought of giving TS a series when we were struggling in the 3rd and 4th quarters.

If they are weighting articles they want us to read and we are asking that question, why won't they???

The next football game I coach will the first football game I ever coached, but there was part of me saying Saturday night saying “Sit JM for a series or two. If nothing more than to settle him down while also sending a message”.

 

[CB4]

I happened to catch part of the Auburn radio show last night and listened to some of Hugh Freeze’s comments about film review with the QBs on Sunday. Basically they run the play then ask them “what do you see?”.

Freeze said (with Thorne) “every read with the exception of one (a throw to Coleman on the boundary) was correct. So at that point it isn’t about coaching. If they are seeing what they are suppose to see, it is about execution“.

Convenient excuse? Maybe, but maybe not. So it makes me wonder if our coaches don’t see similar with Milroe in film study? He gives them all the right “answers“ in skull sessions and practice but ”when the lights come on at game time” and the pressure is on, it all goes away?

 

[Cruloc]

DeBoer is the coach....he's a successful coach...he knows absolutely what he's doing. We here at TideFans that disagree with certain things know very little compared to the coaching staff....we know that.

Saban and DeBoer in 23 and 24 have said Milroe is the best option at QB. Ok, great.

Doesn't mean we still can't see that Milroe's throwing mechanics are not good at all.
Doesn't mean we still can't see that most of his throws are not on time, he's late....a lot.
Doesn't mean we still can't see that he looked lost for a good portion of the USF game.
Or that his decision making on where to throw aren't great.
Or that he can't hit crossers and slants.
Or that he doesn't make presnap reads to make line adjustments or dump a pass over a blitzer.

I also wonder how NIL has spun things concerning coaching decisions and whomst plays vs whomst doesn't.

I make no money in football....DeBoer makes more money in a year than I'll ever see in my life.

The fact opinions are stated and the "coach knows what he's doing" statement even comes up seems antithetical to me on a fan site where we come together to voice opinions and talk with each other.

But hey....what do I know....I'm just a guy typing on keyboard.

 

[mlh]

I'm a big fan of giving your backups meaningful playing time - even when the game is not decided and especially if the starters are struggling to get things going. Coach Bryant used to do this and sometimes the 2nd unit would come in and give the team a lift and seize the momentum. This also gave the coaches time to talk with the starters and "coach them up" and gave the guys a chance to catch their breath and refocus, if necessary.

More substitution also provides valuable experience for your backups. They're ready to go later in the season if called upon due to injury or other issues. And if a backup knows he's going to be playing some, he's going to work harder and prepare better for the game, something that benefits everyone.

And last, but not least, next year, the guys who are backups this year will be ready to step up because they have game experience. It builds continuity. It builds teamwork. It builds confidence. And it develops leadership. It might also reduce the impact of players hitting the portal because they aren't getting playing time.

As CB4 said - the next game I coach will be the first game I coach - but I'd get the backups more playing time and give them a chance to show what they can do throughout the game, not just once the outcome is decided.