Are you expecting an easy win vs. Texas?

[cam4mav]

We'll adjust by going 4 wide, and throwing underneath. That's CJM's M.O. anyway. Sound familiar?

sounds very familiar, I would love the match up of your O trying to dink and dunk against our secondary. If Texas scores early and stuffs the run forcing you guys to pass, the game could turn from the blow out so many predict into a stomping by Texas!
thats a big if though lol.

 

[BamaFossil]

I wish Texas had blown out Nebraska. As it is, we're in danger of drawing the wrong conclusions from the Nebraska game, due to being trapped by the bye-week syndrome.

Recall our less-than-stellar game against Tennessee. We were on our 8th game in a row without a bye week. On this forum we wrote how much that affected the game and how much better we would have performed if we hadn't been so beat-up yadda yadda....

Well, I believe Texas was on their 9th game in a row without a bye when they played Nebraska. They were likely more beat-up against Nebraska than we were against Tennessee.

IMO we'll see an entirely different Texas team on Jan. 7. If we don't bring our A-game they'll hand us our heads.

 

[GMacFan]

I wish Texas had blown out Nebraska. .

I don't. Blowing out Nebraska would mean Texas is capable of blowing out a good defense. Since that hasn't happened, they might not even be capable of it. I don't think that Nebraksa game was just a fluke, they were playing for a shot at the National Championship game.

 

[NYBamaFan]

sounds very familiar, I would love the match up of your O trying to dink and dunk against our secondary. If Texas scores early and stuffs the run forcing you guys to pass, the game could turn from the blow out so many predict into a stomping by Texas!
thats a big if though lol.

If you are able to stuff the running game, the underneath routes will all be open, because it will take 8 men in the box to do it. It would force your LBs and safeties to drop back a yard or two, which is all we need to run the ball.

Pick your poison. We have had great SEC defenses do this to us and have worked it out - part of the reason that our offense has improved so much over the last 4 weeks...

 

[TideFan in AU]

sounds very familiar, I would love the match up of your O trying to dink and dunk against our secondary.

Well you would be the 5th team in the row to think that way and Greg has picked them apart. I think your secondary is really good but I can't them being a whole better than Florida's or LSU's and we had great success dinking and dunking them.
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[NYBamaFan]

Well you would be the 5th team in the row to think that way and Greg has picked them apart. I think your secondary is really good but I can't them being a whole better than Florida's or LSU's and we had great success dinking and dunking them.
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I will tell you who we have struggled against - teams who forced us to the short routes that also had great running games. Why? Because it is harder to score without big plays in that type of game, and their running games minimized our number of possessions. Think TN, LSU and Auburn. With each team having fewer possessions, both teams have a chance late in the game.

Florida didn't have a running game, so we ended up taking them apart (even with their great defense and Tim Tebow). In fact, every team that we faced this year without a solid running game has been destroyed. That is why I am so confident.

If Texas is one dimensional, we could win in a 38-6 type of game...

 

[mlh]

I wish Texas had blown out Nebraska. As it is, we're in danger of drawing the wrong conclusions from the Nebraska game, due to being trapped by the bye-week syndrome.

Recall our less-than-stellar game against Tennessee. We were on our 8th game in a row without a bye week. On this forum we wrote how much that affected the game and how much better we would have performed if we hadn't been so beat-up yadda yadda....

Well, I believe Texas was on their 9th game in a row without a bye when they played Nebraska. They were likely more beat-up against Nebraska than we were against Tennessee.

IMO we'll see an entirely different Texas team on Jan. 7. If we don't bring our A-game they'll hand us our heads.

I was going to post this but you beat me to it. Everyone should keep this in mind when they judge UT based on what they saw in their game with Nebraska. With the time off they will be fresh and rested and ready to go. I think we can expect to see quite a different team than what we saw against the Huskers.

But we still beat them, of course...

 

[NYBamaFan]

...Recall our less-than-stellar game against Tennessee. We were on our 8th game in a row without a bye week. On this forum we wrote how much that affected the game and how much better we would have performed if we hadn't been so beat-up yadda yadda.

Well, I believe Texas was on their 9th game in a row without a bye when they played Nebraska. They were likely more beat-up against Nebraska than we were against Tennessee...

A critical difference - Nebraska was playing its 8th game in a row without a bye in that game. In other words, they were both exhausted - not just Texas.

Tennessee had a bye week before our game. We were beat up and they were fresh.

 

[crains]

:biga:It is very easy to pad the stats and win every game with a schedule like Texas! Look at their schedule! It is pathetic compared to any SEC team! They gave up 39 point to A&M, Struggled with a wounded Oklahoma team and got a little help from the refs to beat a better than average Neb team by 1. If you consider Bradford was hurt they did not have a siginificact win on their scheldule. With that said I think they will bring their best game to the Rose bowl which I dont believe will be enough! If Alabama brings their best game of the year and Texas dont it could be a blowout! It could be a difficult game if we are not focused but I believe Saban will have this team ready!

 

[RolltideFanz]

How does you O handle the situation? What do you guys do when you can't run the ball consistently (remember hypothetical) and need to throw. Who do you go to, what routes, how long do the plays take to develop? etc...

Mack?!? :biggrin:

sounds very familiar, I would love the match up of your O trying to dink and dunk against our secondary. If Texas scores early and stuffs the run forcing you guys to pass, the game could turn from the blow out so many predict into a stomping by Texas!
thats a big if though lol.

And this is where I think that we're seriously undersold. I know a lot of Horn fans think Bama is selling their D too short, and we're used to hearing people sell our QB and passing game too short on this end.

 

[TRUTIDE]

:biga:It is very easy to pad the stats and win every game with a schedule like Texas! Look at their schedule! It is pathetic compared to any SEC team! They gave up 39 point to A&M, Struggled with a wounded Oklahoma team and got a little help from the refs to beat a better than average Neb team by 1. If you consider Bradford was hurt they did not have a siginificact win on their scheldule. With that said I think they will bring their best game to the Rose bowl which I dont believe will be enough! If Alabama brings their best game of the year and Texas dont it could be a blowout! It could be a difficult game if we are not focused but I believe Saban will have this team ready!

Very good points! It's like you are reading my thoughts. Their schedule and how they performed against ranked teams seems to be what alot of people are ignoring. The big elephant in the room.

Ok so here is a thought
Consider your D line and our D line as the same, both good against the run and good at pressuring the QB.

How does you O handle the situation? What do you guys do when you can't run the ball consistently (remember hypothetical) and need to throw. Who do you go to, what routes, how long do the plays take to develop? etc...

Slant Julio over the middle. He is hard to bring down. He is like a RB in these type situations. When Ingram struggled in the Auburn game (hip pointer), Julio and eventually Richardson really took up the slack. Also, quick screens to Maze on the outside. This is the quickest way to open up the running game. It will also open up some shots downfield. McElroy throws a pretty long ball. We have had a few drops in the last few games though.

If you are able to stuff the running game, the underneath routes will all be open, because it will take 8 men in the box to do it. It would force your LBs and safeties to drop back a yard or two, which is all we need to run the ball.

Pick your poison. We have had great SEC defenses do this to us and have worked it out - part of the reason that our offense has improved so much over the last 4 weeks...

Exactly. Invite the pressure then dump over the middle. McElroy can be deadly accurate in these situations. His first 12-13 passes against FL were right on the hands every time.

 

[CapitalTider]

as for the notion that sending 5 means Colt scores....um of course not, but he has been very good at finding the blitz and getting the ball to that hole, he has done it his whole career, I see no reason to expect different for the next game. We are very good at eating up yards when teams blitz us, your DB's will have to play super glue man all game for us to not take advantage of that.

I want to compliment you cam4mav, you are the most rational Horns fan I've seen on here. I was beginning to believe what I had heard from OU fans, that all UT fans were arrogant SOBs. So thanks for stemming that judgment.

Some of your brother/sister fans have been trying to convince us that the UT defense is the immovable object and the UT offense led by McCoy is the irresistable force. We had no chance if our three DL couldn't sack McCoy, every play he would eat our defense alive. If we blitzed he would throw a TD. The notion that I've been given by them is that your games against the #7 and #9 defenses were anomalies and that the games against the #95 defense of Baylor is more like how you would treat lowly Alabama. Alabama's defense despite their lofty ranking cannot compare to OU or NU because we don't have McCoy or Suh. Frankly, I was beginning to think we shouldn't even show up and I was trying to decide what I was going to watch instead on Thursday January 7th.

 

[herri026]

That's entirely possible. However, if Cody is 3/4 of the player that Suh is, we should be able to slow Texas' offense down.

I think Cody is actually more like 5/4 the player Suh is.:wink:

 

[TideFan in AU]

I think Cody is actually more like 5/4 the player Suh is.:wink:

LOL
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[cam4mav]

Mack?!? :biggrin:

actually I'm coach boom
no gray hairs lol

 

[bayoutider]

???
I watched both the Tenn game, and the Auburn game, and neither team loaded the box to slow your running game. I can assure you we will not either.

If you go back and watch the Florida game, take careful notice of what happens to their defensive tackles on every running play. They get completely washed out, getting knocked back 2-3 yards. Blockers got to the linebacker level every single down. Now go back and watch Auburn at the point of attack. They were totally different. Their DT's held their ground, and Josh Bynes was all over your running backs.

Considering we are really strong at DT, I liked what I saw there. Auburn isn't any different physically in their front 7 then we are. If anything, they are a little smaller. I think we can effect the running game in the same way they did, and it all starts with how good your DTs are.

Against Auburn Mark Ingram had a hip pointer Alabama still controlled the clock against Auburn and it was a rivalry game check your game vs aTm that same week. Bama is better than aTm and Texas is better than Auburn so where does that leave us?

 

[RammerJammer14]

This would be like me pulling out the LSU, Tenn, and Auburn games to show how you aren't that good. You guys struggled in all three of those, with two of those needing a blocked kick, and a official's help to get out alive.

These things happen to almost all teams during a NC run. Rarely are you gonna mudhole every team you face, especially when those teams are used to facing you.

We stomped 9-3 OSU, a team that soundly whipped Georgia, a 7-5 SEC team. Mudholed an 8-4 Mizzou team. Beat a 8-4 Tech team by two scores. We beat everyone we lined up against, and struggled with the same amount of teams that you did. The difference is only that instead of you finishing with a game like Auburn, you played your best game of the season vs UF. That one game does not wash away the entire season for you, just like our NU game shouldn't wash away the entire season for us.

This is exactly what you have been saying...


You are right, the texas offense is unstoppable. The Florida game was an aberration for us, there is no way we score on your amazing defense, and your offense is gonna open a can of youknowwhat on our defense. Boy, I don't even know why Texas should even have to play this game, they are just so superior in every way!

 

[RammerJammer14]

I agree Bama is better than A&M, and Texas is better than Auburn.



However, I do think there are reasons each team struggled against the other. You can cite the hip pointer all you want, but I watched the game, and Auburn was meeting all your rbs at the line of scrimmage or earlier. They were winning the battle in the trenches on defense.

As far as we go, I will tell you exactly what happened. Jerrod Johnson gave us the mini Vince Young treatment. They spread us out 5wide, and he kept taking off, breaking down our defense. He ran for 100 yards on us, forcing us to come out of our usually good man coverage, with safety help over the top, to cover1 or cover 0, and start spying him. That's when he threw on us, and we got tons of pressure, but his speed bought them time to get rid of the football. He kept evading rushes, and getting rid of the ball......accurately! There are no excuses from this camp. It began and ended with HIM, and everything else that happened was a direct result of that. That was the only game this season where our defense faltered! Kudos to them!

That tends to happen when 6 try to block 10. You can pretend you paid attention to that game all you want, Auburn was stacking the box all game...

Once again, RIVALRY + SHORT WEEK + OVERLOOK=CLOSE GAME

 

[CapitalTider]

So what happens when The Irresistable Force of the Texas Offense meets The Immovable Object of the Texas Defense in practice? Isn't that how Armageddon is triggered? What will our poor little boys do against such perfection?

 

[bayoutider]

This is exactly what you have been saying...


You are right, the texas offense is unstoppable. The Florida game was an aberration for us, there is no way we score on your amazing defense, and your offense is gonna open a can of youknowwhat on our defense. Boy, I don't even know why Texas should even have to play this game, they are just so superior in every way!

I need someone to remind me how Alabama rose from #5 in week one to #3 after week three and stayed in the top 3 the rest of the season struggling.

Always room for improvement, half the teams we play play us like it's their championship game. I'm not disrespecting Texas great season even though we did jump them in the polls and I have wanted them so bad I could taste it all season long.