Bama vs Oklahoma round 2 (Friday December 19th)

There are facets of the offense, outside of anything to do with Milroe/Simpson, that are demonstrably worse this year than last.
I really think Deboer needs to be more involved. I haven't dived into this but it seems our offense looks its best after bye weeks for the most part. And I wonder if Deboer is more involved in the game planning at those times.

That said we laid an egg vs FSU and Michigan in the bowl game last year so maybe I'm wrong.

Regardless, he has to own it and make some changes on offense. Idc what they are.
 
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I really think Deboer needs to be more involved. I haven't dived into this but it seems our offense looks its best after bye weeks for the most part. And I wonder if Deboer is more involved in the game planning at those times.

That said we laid an egg vs FSU and Michigan in the bowl game last year so maybe I'm wrong.

Regardless, he has to own it and make some changes on offense. Idc what they are.

From the chatter with some involved… Grubb has been very much in charge with the personnel and gameplan decisions on offense.
 
I fully understand the concern over the play calling of Grubb, and sometimes shocking performances ag subpar teams under CKD, however, is it also possible , with out crimson colored glasses , we also greatly overrate our talent.? Every week I watch receivers on other teams make great catches in traffic or with one hand. Ours routinely drop passes thrown to them…great catches …can’t recall many. I really like our #1 Bernard….but is he remotely at the level of Julio, Amari,Ridley, Smitty, Judy, waddle ,Ruggs or Jamo?
How about running backs? Yes, we’ve lost Jam Miller…but cmon….even in best health he’d have been a #3 back on the Saban teams. Brian Robinson waited four yrs to start, and he was better than anyone on this roster.

Obviously the OL is far from championship caliber. Surprisingly our D is solid, but again, no high draft picks there, at least among the upper classmen. The great DTs, linebackers and DBs…..do we still have them?

Again, I’m very disappointed in Grubb and CKD, but I think it’s also a talent and development issue. (Plenty of 5 stars not becoming stars in college).


Hey….Ive been following the Tide since Stabler, and would love to be wrong, but those predicting a long run in the playoffs must be watching something different than me.
 
Hey….Ive been following the Tide since Stabler, and would love to be wrong, but those predicting a long run in the playoffs must be watching something different than me.

The thing about actual playoffs is that it doesn’t matter what the regular season showed. It matters who can win 1 game. I think alot of people base Bama’s potential off of how the BCS and fake playoff (4 team playoff) operated. What I’m talking about is each team was equal in time of preparation and only had to future gameplan for two other opponents. Here no one has that luxury. What we have is truly a “win and advance” system. That truly favors a team with momentum over a team enjoying a whole month of holiday celebrations and lax practices until they get closer to game time.

If Alabama beats Oklahoma then barring major injuries they will have a clear edge in momentum going into the Rose bowl. Not saying they win but it’s harder to bring things back up after shutting it all down. Again what wins Super Bowls are great January defenses and capable offenses at the right time. And don’t think the latter couldn’t happen to be “good enough” again for us. As a reminder Georgia and Oregon both got blown out last year against teams who played round 1. The teams that played round 1 were 3-1 in the quarters with PSU being the only team to prevail over an overmatched Boise. Granted Texas benefited from refs and bad defensive decisions vs asu but the point remains that Ohio st and nd used their momentum in round one to go all the way after everyone outside of south bend and Columbus wrote them off.

Playoffs are a different and crazier type season where you truly can forget the past 13-15 weeks.
 
Why are so many confident Alabama can beat Oklahoma? What about the match up favors Alabama? Not being an Eeyore, I'm genuinely interested in the Xs and Os that make Oklahoma a preferred path for Alabama.
I think a lot of the optimism stems from the fact that they scored 10 off of turnovers and the offense was able to move the ball. I swear it looks to me ,though , that the offense has regressed. With no running game…..at all….. I just can’t see it. The offense squanders this D, which I personally think that when healthy ( sure wish we could get Overton back from whatever mysterious “ illness “ he has ) is good enough and playing well enough to go fairly deep in the playoffs.
 
I fully understand the concern over the play calling of Grubb, and sometimes shocking performances ag subpar teams under CKD, however, is it also possible , with out crimson colored glasses , we also greatly overrate our talent.? Every week I watch receivers on other teams make great catches in traffic or with one hand. Ours routinely drop passes thrown to them…great catches …can’t recall many. I really like our #1 Bernard….but is he remotely at the level of Julio, Amari,Ridley, Smitty, Judy, waddle ,Ruggs or Jamo?
How about running backs? Yes, we’ve lost Jam Miller…but cmon….even in best health he’d have been a #3 back on the Saban teams. Brian Robinson waited four yrs to start, and he was better than anyone on this roster.

Obviously the OL is far from championship caliber. Surprisingly our D is solid, but again, no high draft picks there, at least among the upper classmen. The great DTs, linebackers and DBs…..do we still have them?

Again, I’m very disappointed in Grubb and CKD, but I think it’s also a talent and development issue. (Plenty of 5 stars not becoming stars in college).


Hey….Ive been following the Tide since Stabler, and would love to be wrong, but those predicting a long run in the playoffs must be watching something different than me.
I never understand the hype of the wrs coming into the season and noted back then. Bernard has almost single handily won games though so he is the real deal. The others eh. RBs have been a mystery since they were Great high school players. Heck Hanes and young were rated what 1 and 2 out of high school? Think staff changes and just lack of quality coaching has hurt the o line, RBs and WRs. Although you take crimson glasses off and other fans think o line not bad and stuff so reality is probably middle of both world’s.
 
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I’m trying to be optimistic for the CFP vs OU, but is Bama's offense capable, at this point, of threatening anyone? Based on what we saw in the SECCG last Saturday, everyone on the field and everyone watching knows we have absolutely no running game because the OL is not on the level required for D1 football. I really hope we can play smart and out-execute OU, but given the state of the team right now, that is a huge task.

If Bama can get more of the wounded in action healthy over the next 10 days and can figure out a way to scheme better considering the OL and running game weaknesses, then we do have a good chance, but scheming and adjusting do not seem to be strong suits of CRG. I've been a Bama fan for 55 years, and I’ll always pull for the Tide, but I’ve never seen a Bama running game this bad. BTW, JessN has an insightful post in another discussion on the drop-off in Bama’s running game from last year to this year—worth the read. Do any of you remember Johnny (“Bull”) Davis? It wasn’t until late in his senior year at fullback in 1977 that he was tackled for a loss while running the ball, and that happened only once! How I miss those great running teams of the 70’s and even from earlier in CNS’s tenure at Bama. Anything’s possible—and now Bama has a shot—so I hope they can produce.
 
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I fully understand the concern over the play calling of Grubb, and sometimes shocking performances ag subpar teams under CKD, however, is it also possible , with out crimson colored glasses , we also greatly overrate our talent.? Every week I watch receivers on other teams make great catches in traffic or with one hand. Ours routinely drop passes thrown to them…great catches …can’t recall many. I really like our #1 Bernard….but is he remotely at the level of Julio, Amari,Ridley, Smitty, Judy, waddle ,Ruggs or Jamo?
How about running backs? Yes, we’ve lost Jam Miller…but cmon….even in best health he’d have been a #3 back on the Saban teams. Brian Robinson waited four yrs to start, and he was better than anyone on this roster.

Obviously the OL is far from championship caliber. Surprisingly our D is solid, but again, no high draft picks there, at least among the upper classmen. The great DTs, linebackers and DBs…..do we still have them?

Again, I’m very disappointed in Grubb and CKD, but I think it’s also a talent and development issue. (Plenty of 5 stars not becoming stars in college).


Hey….Ive been following the Tide since Stabler, and would love to be wrong, but those predicting a long run in the playoffs must be watching something different than me.
One could make the argument that uga is more talented than we are but not, say, the sooners. Can't really compare the Nick years to college football today because NIL and the portal has really redistributed the talent pool. Our fortunes on the gridiron have waned as the season went on due to the difficulty of the schedule and the injuries resulting from it...an thing the big 2 or any of the other conferences have no clue about. Now, our game against freeshoes, yea, that is all on the coaches and players for not being prepared. Our loss to OU, that was a result of better coaching by their D. Our loss to the dawgs, they had this coming to us for 1, they could have better talent, we were supremely banged up and Kirby had the blueprint from Venerables to beat us on D. That is the season in a nutshell.
 
I’m trying to be optimistic for the CFP vs OU, but is Bama's offense capable, at this point, of threatening anyone? Based on what we saw in the SECCG last Saturday, everyone on the field and everyone watching knows we have absolutely no running game because the OL is not on the level required for D1 football. I really hope we can play smart and out-execute OU, but given the state of the team right now, that is a huge task.

If Bama can get more of the wounded in action healthy over the next 10 days and can figure out a way to scheme better considering the OL and running game weaknesses, then we do have a good chance, but scheming and adjusting do not seem to be strong suits of CRG. I've been a Bama fan for 55 years, and I’ll always pull for the Tide, but I’ve never seen a Bama running game this bad. BTW, JessN has an insightful post in another discussion on the drop-off in Bama’s running game from last year to this year—worth the read. Do any of you remember Johnny (“Bull”) Davis? It wasn’t until late in his senior year at fullback in 1977 that he was tackled for a loss while running the ball, and that happened only once! How I miss those great running teams of the 70’s and even from earlier in CNS’s tenure at Bama. Anything’s possible—and now Bama has a shot—so I hope they can produce.
I'm like you, looking for optimism. If we can get some guys healed up and break up the tendencies on the offensive playcalling then we might have a chance. But this will take DeBoer's best coaching effort to date to pull off IMHO.
 
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My thoughts on this game are completely different than the past game with UGA. For some reason, I have a pretty good feeling about coming out with a win in Norman. Don't ask me why, it's just a gut feeling (probably something I ate) but that's my story and I am sticking with it for now.

What do we have to do different than the game played in BDS?
1. Get off the field on 3rd down.
2. Do not give up a big play such as a pick 6 or blocked field goal/punt.
3. Win the field position. That is going to be tough with our lack of a good punt game.
4. Score points when we get the opportunity, be a TD, FG or a defensive TD.
5. Have just a little success with the run game.
6. CRG and company must put in some short, quick hitting passing routes. Stick, Mesh, Slants, Screens, etc...
7. Ty has to make better decisions with his passes.
8. OL to perform better than they have in the last two games.
 
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He may be saying this in public since he got a masters in coach speak, but I just hope he is coming up with a much better plan for this payoff game:

"It's just a matter of 'keep your head up, and we got this. A couple of small things can lead to big things. And we don't need to make it bigger than it is,'" said DeBoer when asked what he's telling Simpson via the Alabama Crimson Tide YouTube channel. "We just got to keep chipping away, much like I talked about weeks ago with the run game. Being persistent. Just stay the course addressing things you do have to acknowledge and address them and be truthful.

"Small things and sometimes it's not just you, it's everyone around you, just everyone picking up their game and doing their part that can go a long ways to a much higher level of success that I know we all expect."

 
Where did that list come from, and did you mean to say the OU game not the SEC championship game because Cuevas, Miller & Overton were most definitely out that game.
Not according to this piece:
 
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