Oh, I agree. But if they miss this boat and try to keep going it alone, they could really be in trouble in as little as 5-10 years. This is the point I'm trying to make.
Conference Realignment Talk
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Concision is definitely a skill that requires effort.Well, I've actually gotten in the most trouble here when I was really concise and didn't fully explain myself.
If for instance I just go "you're wrong, Notre Dame is one of the best possible additions", it's probably even more irritating than having to read one of my books.
That and I can read fast and don't care enough if others do not, heh. Nevertheless I was trying to be somewhat merciful. I could write a volume of books about why Notre Dame is more valuable than Clemson and give 100 more data points.
Johnny took a meandering path to his local grocer. One that is constantly criticized for its destruction of the American entrepreneurial dream and is one of the largest employers in the world.
Johnny went to Walmart
They both communicate the exact same action.
Depends what you mean by relevant.
Regarding the NC, they struggle for a foothold now. The last several times in the playoff or the BCS, the Domers got destroyed — they weren’t truly competitive at that level.
But given their history, television base, and non-alumni rooting base, their ability to generate revenue lays waste to their recent W-L record.
Which brings us back around to our point of major agreement….Notre Dame’s athletic programs will never be more valuable than they are now.
How they play the next card will be most interesting indeed.
Sometimes it's not who you get, but who you block from getting them.
I'm too wordy to ever be considered Concise, but like the blind Elephant,
I do sometimes find a Peanut.
I'll leave out the next couple of paragraphs.
So if you assume that Notre Dame is not an expansion candidate for the SEC and accept they ultimately in end up in the Big Ten, then the SEC essentially has more freedom to act, right? As long as Notre Dame is available the Big 10 will hold out. Something tells me Notre Dame will slow play the Big Ten like they have done for the 50 years.
The Big 10 maybe accumulating more viewers but they aren't doing anything imo to alter the competitive advantage the SEC has in outdoor sports.
The Big 10 maybe accumulating more viewers but they aren't doing anything imo to alter the competitive advantage the SEC has in outdoor sports.
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/s...f-how-college-football-ended-up-on-the-brink/
An interesting article about how we got to this point in the writers opinion. I cannot help but believe he is on target with much of his claims.
An interesting article about how we got to this point in the writers opinion. I cannot help but believe he is on target with much of his claims.
Watch: SEC Shorts holds auditions for conference admission
Who will make the cut?
www.rollbamaroll.com
To get a gauge of what may happen, we really need to know what the end game is, and while there is a ton of speculation, no one really knows. Is it just continued economic domination? Or are the SEC and Big Ten really after a full withdrawal from the ncaa and the creation of a standalone playoff that only they are a part of?
If it is the former, then I think Notre Dame can and will continue to slow play the proceedings as you have stated. They have zero economic interest in changing their current stature, because they never have before. They are perfectly content with whatever money they are making and do not seem to be dissuaded by whatever the Big Ten and SEC are pulling down. The only thing that may trigger their move in this scenario would be if the SEC decides North Carolina, Virginia, and whatever other ACC schools can grow their own economic pie. If the ACC crumbles, then Notre Dame will have to move.
However, if the end game is the second scenario, and the Big Ten/SEC are planning a true breakaway, then Notre Dame cannot afford to get left off of the boat. But I would say that they still have some leverage in that scenario. Neither the Big Ten nor the SEC are likely to be willing to leave them behind.
Notre Dame in a conference may not be as valuable as an independent. In a conference, Notre is not likely to make it into a CFP. I can see Notre Dame suffering a fate similar to Nebraska in joining the Big 10 or SEC.
It also appears that Notre Dame is beholden to a unilateral decision-making perspective. Consensus and compromise in a conference, if history is an indicator, is not something they value, ala Texas. My perception is the Notre Dame leadership perceives themselves as even more elite than their Big 10 counterparts.
It also appears that Notre Dame is beholden to a unilateral decision-making perspective. Consensus and compromise in a conference, if history is an indicator, is not something they value, ala Texas. My perception is the Notre Dame leadership perceives themselves as even more elite than their Big 10 counterparts.
Well, if TPTB would stop making special rules for ND then they'd have to join a conference if they wanted to compete for a title.
Yeah, they did it every sport but football. No idea why football gets a pass.
That's not necessarily true.
The problem with all the other sports and the reason Notre Dame sought a conference home for them is scheduling. It become more and more difficult to fill out a schedule in those sports as an Independent. There were never any rules passed about restricting their access to the postseasons in those sports. At least, not in basketball for sure. Conference tournament winners got auto-bids yes, but there were at-large bids that they could get.
And the scheduling problem bled over into football as well and that's why they made deals with the Big East (3 games each year against Big East teams) and now the ACC with 5 yearly games with that conference. So they have long since been Independent in name only.
So back to the point... the real way to force Notre Dame into a conference is to limit their ability to schedule. That may well happen too, if the Big Ten continues to decimate the Pac 12, and then they and the SEC expand their conference schedules to 9 or even 10 games. Then it becomes more and more difficult for Notre Dame to fill out a respectable schedule, not only from an SOS standpoint, but an interest standpoint as well. Imagine Notre Dame only being able to find games against the likes of the service academies and Akron.
Actually basketball does have a rule that you have to be in a conference. No exceptions. I believe it was started to keep division 2 teams from just moving up and being independent, but written in a way that forced notre dame to join the big east for basketball only.
I think it's the opposite. Notre Dame is going to be forced to join a conference because the future look of a playoff won't include them if they don't. With these super leagues forming it's clear there won't be special privileges for ND. The teams that don't sign up are going to get left behind.
I've no doubt you could. However, what would be the point of all that writing if no one is going to read them.
1) there were no Four Horsemen of Clemson
2) nobody will ever make a movie called "Dabo Swinney: All-American" that has a future President in a supporting role
3) the manufactured "win one for the Gipper" myth is original and anything now would be a cheap copy
4) teams can no longer play for ties to win national titles
5) NBC became the Notre Dame Broadcasting Company, but CBS isn't doing that for Clemson
6) Notre Dame has cathedrals that burn in France named after their school while..
7) Clemson is Auburn with a lake
8) Clemson is nothing but Alabama Jr, four of their best coaches UA products
9) Notre Dame has Touchdown Jesus ("the Rock"); Clemson has a stone
10) Nobody including the players even knows the tune to the Clemson fight song.
Auburn's fight song is is the Great Value version of Notre Dame Victory March. Clemson's fight song, Tiger Rag, is also played by Auburn and LSU. May your hatred of all four teams increase.
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