What is Obama going to do without the House? Also, the GOP should gain ground in the Senate as well. 2014 it looks like both the House and the Senate will be GOP. 2016 the GOP could gain even more seats in the House and Senate and cap it off with the POTUS. The holy trinity for the GOP is only 4 years away.
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What is Obama going to do without the House? Also, the GOP should gain ground in the Senate as well. 2014 it looks like both the House and the Senate will be GOP. 2016 the GOP could gain even more seats in the House and Senate and cap it off with the POTUS. The holy trinity for the GOP is only 4 years away.
Yeah, I've seen where you've blasted Obama but you made a statement about Romeny not letting infrastructure go while nation building. From that I can only assume that you think Obama would do better with infrastructure, so I pointed out Obama had a chance to do something and didn't. You don't seem to blame him for doing nothing. That's a double standard in my book.
I blamed Obama for doing nothing in the middle east. I just do not see Obama getting us into any war if he can help it. Again, I said I fear, not Mitt would.
I'm not wrong or inconsistent. The two aren't comparable. One had never been done before and there was very little to no intelligence to warn of anything coming. The other is totally different but you keep carrying Obama's water if it makes you feel better.
There were PDBs that warned of this.
Please show me where I "keep carrying Obama's water". I am simply comparing the two situations, not blaming OR absolving anybody in either.
There were PDBs that warned of this.
Please show me where I "keep carrying Obama's water". I am simply comparing the two situations, not blaming OR absolving anybody in either.
Please, you always carry his water and I'm not the only person here that will say so. If you don't think Obama is at fault in Libya then you are carrying his water. He helped the Muslim Brotherhood get a hold in Libya so he should be held responsible, IMO. Bush had nothing to do with bringing Al Queda into power and I'm sorry but we had very little knowledge that something like 911 would or could take place.
Please, you always carry his water and I'm not the only person here that will say so. If you don't think Obama is at fault in Libya then you are carrying his water. He helped the Muslim Brotherhood get a hold in Libya so he should be held responsible, IMO. Bush had nothing to do with bringing Al Queda into power and I'm sorry but we had very little knowledge that something like 911 would or could take place.
First, saying he helped the Muslim Brotherhood get a hold in Libya is a real stretch. I guess you would have liked the murderer of Americans to stay in power there
. So far the government, what there is of it, is much more friendly to us than the previous.Second, concerning 911, we were warned that al queda was planning something big and that and that using planes as missiles was also a possibility. The title of the 8/6 PDB was actually “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.†Instead the administration decided to focus on old cold war issues.
March 2001 – Italian intelligence warns of an al Qaeda plot in the United States involving a massive strike involving aircraft, based on their wiretap of al Qaeda cell in Milan.
July 2001 – Jordanian intelligence told US officials that al-Qaeda was planning an attack on American soil, and Egyptian intelligence warned the CIA that 20 al Qaeda Jihadists were in the United States, and that four of them were receiving flight training.
August 2001 – The Israeli Mossad gives the CIA a list of 19 terrorists living in the US and say that they appear to be planning to carry out an attack in the near future.
August 2001 – The United Kingdom is warned three times of an imminent al Qaeda attack in the United States, the third specifying multiple airplane hijackings. According to the Sunday Herald, the report is passed on to President Bush a short time later.
September 2001 – Egyptian intelligence warns American officials that al Qaeda is in the advanced stages of executing a significant operation against an American target, probably within the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks_advance-knowledge_conspiracy_theories
Thats the way it is Gunga Din!:tongue:
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So what you are saying is that you are not actually saying anything worth paying attention to in any of your posts because none of them have any point, especially since you seem to move the goalposts with every single post. But clearly no trolling is taking place.
BTW, saying "I fear Romney will nation-build and ignore infrastructure" is exactly the same as saying "I think Romney will nation-build and ignore infrastructure". You can not fear something if you don't think it can happen. Mind blowing, I know.
There is a saying in the military, the commander is responsible for everything his unit does or fails to do. This would apply to the President. Look, I understand that the President is not deciding minor issues like the number and quality of security details in every embassy and consulate around the world. But he is still responsible when it gets screwed up. If one of his subordinates disapproved (without the President's knowledge & approval) the request for more security in Benghazi, then the appropriate response from the President is to find out who disapproved what and when, and, if someone did something wrong, then they will be disciplined/fired. Pronto. I realize this administration is used to stonewalling investigations, but it does not have to stonewall its own investigations. Within 24 hours, this president (if he was competent) would have been the master of the facts related to this. Instead, he went on the View, etc.
The separate issues is the false narrative that was put forth (and maintained for two weeks) that this was the result of a video, when the Administration knew it was not the result of a video. That it was related to 911 and was sponsored by an al Qaida affiliate in Libya. The Administration has sent out spokesman after spokesman to lie about this because the truth was more embarrassing than the lie.
Thanks for the kind words.
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Fear: An unpleasant emotion caused by the belief that someone or something is dangerous, likely to cause pain, or a threat.
Emotion: A natural instinctive state of mind deriving from one's circumstances, mood, or relationships with others.
Think: Have a particular opinion, belief, or idea about someone or something:
Notice the lack of the word emotion in think. I now ask for exact proof that Fear = Think
Libya is going to be a problem for BHO on Tuesday. I've thought this election has been over for a while but I think Tuesday might allow others to see it for themselves. There is so much low hanging fruit for Romney on this administration's totally incompetent foreign policy it is not even funny. It is tragic and if played right Romney will hit BHO over the head with it from start to finish.
BTW- debates matter this time because of the media. Never before have they ever created, propped up, protected, and campaigned for a presidential candidate like they have for Obama. This is as unfiltered as it gets for the two without the media running interference. The people have seen the real Obama and have found him wanting.
BTW- debates matter this time because of the media. Never before have they ever created, propped up, protected, and campaigned for a presidential candidate like they have for Obama. This is as unfiltered as it gets for the two without the media running interference. The people have seen the real Obama and have found him wanting.
First, saying he helped the Muslim Brotherhood get a hold in Libya is a real stretch. I guess you would have liked the murderer of Americans to stay in power there
Second, concerning 911, we were warned that al queda was planning something big and that and that using planes as missiles was also a possibility. The title of the 8/6 PDB was actually “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.†Instead the administration decided to focus on old cold war issues.
March 2001 – Italian intelligence warns of an al Qaeda plot in the United States involving a massive strike involving aircraft, based on their wiretap of al Qaeda cell in Milan.
July 2001 – Jordanian intelligence told US officials that al-Qaeda was planning an attack on American soil, and Egyptian intelligence warned the CIA that 20 al Qaeda Jihadists were in the United States, and that four of them were receiving flight training.
August 2001 – The Israeli Mossad gives the CIA a list of 19 terrorists living in the US and say that they appear to be planning to carry out an attack in the near future.
August 2001 – The United Kingdom is warned three times of an imminent al Qaeda attack in the United States, the third specifying multiple airplane hijackings. According to the Sunday Herald, the report is passed on to President Bush a short time later.
September 2001 – Egyptian intelligence warns American officials that al Qaeda is in the advanced stages of executing a significant operation against an American target, probably within the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks_advance-knowledge_conspiracy_theories
Thats the way it is Gunga Din!:tongue:
First, it's not a stretch at all to say Obama helped the Muslim Brotherhood get a hold in Libya. We had intelligence saying that the rebels were a part of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Queda. Obama helps them by using drones and NATO jets, plus it is highly likely that he armed them in some way.
Second, to say that this new Libyian government is more friendly to us is a stretch. Our embassy was just burned to the ground and we had four people killed under this new government's watch. When was the last time something like that happened?
Third, what exactly do you think Bush should have done with that information? Should he have shut down all air traffic on the possibility that something might happen? Nothing like that had ever happened before so it's hard to know how to prevent it the first time. You have the advantage of hind sight now and I don't think you could come up with anything that would have prevented 9/11. We've had our embassy attacked before and Obama had prior knowledge that something was going on and he still did nothing but try to deflect by blaming a video. They asked for more security and were denied, yet Obama and Biden want to act like they had no knowledge of the situation. The two situations aren't comparable, IMO.
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dont bother wasting your breath Bamaro. lol...BO came into his position in one of the worst possible scenarios. One where the former president had screwed up EVERYTHING. After watching that debate, as much as i'd fear having Romney as POTU, my goodness if Ryan had to take office it'd be like a parody of a movie.
He came into his position knowing everything and said he could fix the problems, yet has done nothing but create new ones. To keep blaming the economy when Obama took office is to ignore the fact that things haven't gotten better during the almost four years he has been in office. Bush turned the economy around after 9/11 within a year and Obama can't do the same in four but I really don't expect Obamatrons to really care one way or the other. Also, are you really trying to convince us you would be more worried about Ryan being President than Biden? If so then you maybe you should really think about it a little more. Biden is the biggest idiot as a VP we have had in many, many years.
That's hilarious. Joe Biden is close to the presidency. He's a parody of humanity.
What's awesome is that Bush screwed up EVERYTHING and Obama came in and screwed up EVERYTHINGIER. And what's even more awesome is that some people are so blind-mad with liberal indignation that Bush screwed up EVERYTHING that they refuse to acknowledge Obama then furthered that EVERYTHING when he screwed the pooch harder than any President in the history of Presidents and made the Bush screwing up EVERYTHING years seem like a long-forgotten dreamy, utopian happy land where candy and cash rained from the sky on a daily basis by comparison.
Lol, its irrelevant. You are grasping at straws. If you can't admit that you have to think something to fear it then its clear you are doing nothing but trolling and I have nothing further to say.
You said exactly, your words not mine that, must mean that Fear = Think
Exactly: Without discrepancy (used to emphasize the accuracy of a figure or description).
So let us set fear equal to think.
An unpleasant emotion caused by the belief that someone or something is dangerous, likely to cause pain, or a threat.
= Have a particular opinion, belief, or idea about someone or something
We can take out belief, someone or something, or a
An unpleasant emotion caused by is dangerous, likely to cause pain, threat.
Does not = Have particular opinion, idea about
Now you say belief is the key word. I can get belief out of disbelief.
So Fear = Think= Disbelief
So I disbelieve Mitt will nation build.
It is clear fear not equal to think. You take one word out of a definition and I’m the one trolling. Classic
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