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CFB needs a Collective Bargaining Agreement
My point being, if the courts says the NCAA can’t restrict transfer, then the idea that a “one time unrestricted transfer” rule by the NCAA would be a non starter.
Yeah CBA and cap is needed. But you have great big kettle of fish to fry before you get there.
 
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Why?

You start bending the rules and we'll be right back where we are now before you know it.
Then they would either shorten the regular season with fewer games (ain’t happening) or start the season earlier so that CFP championship is on New Year’s Day.
 

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Whoever is making the arguments on behalf of the NCAA are poor lawyers. The student athlete should not have more flexibility in transfer than academic students. Most students don't withdraw during a semester to transfer to another school. Athletes should not be afforded this without some exigency circumstances in play.
 

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All the NCAA horses and all the NCAA men couldn't put college football back together again.
The NCAA saw this train barreling down the tracks decades ago. And they formed committees, had nice meetings at the top resorts, dinners at 5 star restaurants, and slapped each other on the backs and said “okay see you at the next meeting”. And did nothing.

The only chance was some form of limited antitrust exemption similar to that of every professional sport in this country. And I’m afraid getting Congress involved now is too little, too late.
 

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Whoever is making the arguments on behalf of the NCAA are poor lawyers. The student athlete should not have more flexibility in transfer than academic students. Most students don't withdraw during a semester to transfer to another school. Athletes should not be afforded this without some exigency circumstances in play.
That's likely why they chose the dates they did - most spring semesters don't start until mid-late Jan.
 

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Then they would either shorten the regular season with fewer games (ain’t happening) or start the season earlier so that CFP championship is on New Year’s Day.
They aren’t going to start college football games before students are on campus.
 

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They aren’t going to start college football games before students are on campus.
They already do in many cases. Schools still on the quarter system have games in August when classes don’t normally start until second week of September.

For years Auburn was on the quarter system. Many times it would be middle of September before classes started and they would have already played a couple of games..
 

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Then they would either shorten the regular season with fewer games (ain’t happening) or start the season earlier so that CFP championship is on New Year’s Day.
Or guys would "underperform" if they're on a team that is about to qualify for CFP or makes CFP and has a shot at final 4.
 
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I think the courts basically have stated transfer can’t be limited, primarily because it limited opportunity for the student/athlete academically, athletically, and economically via NIL. Am I wrong on my understanding of this?

(Not an attorney and haven’t stayed in a Holiday Inn Express recently).

Prosecutors said the rule forced college athletes to either stay in schools they wanted to leave or to transfer and miss out on athletic opportunities. The complaint also alleged the rule “was anticompetitive because it deterred college athletes from challenging anticompetitive rules in court,” a news release from the Justice Department said.

If approved by a judge, the deal would bar the NCAA from enforcing the transfer rule or adopting any similar rules between Division I colleges and universities in the future, the release said.


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If all that is true then why can't an NFL player play for who he wants to? How is the draft legal?
 
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probably has to do with the NFL anti trust exemption.college football may need to get one🤷🏻‍♂️
EDIT: Apparently the NFL does have a limited exemption (for broadcasting rights). However, MLB has a blanket exemption. NFL has been sued and lost multiple times because of this.

Players and teams have the CBA that dictates what they can/can't do and all parties have agreed to that. No such thing (currently) exists at a college level.

NIL exists because of the absence of any agreements.
 
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I don't think the NFL has an anti-trust exemption. That's MLB.

Players and teams have the CBA that dictates what they can/can't do and all parties have agreed to that. No such thing (currently) exists at a college level.

NIL exists because of the absence of any agreements.
I deleted that, I realized they were denied an exemption. Dang you were quick.
 

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If all that is true then why can't an NFL player play for who he wants to? How is the draft legal?
Because NFL players are under a CBA between the NFL Players Association and the owners. The draft is operated per an agreement with the players association. And the NFL, MLB, etc. years ago received limited exemption to antitrust laws from Congress. Intercollegiate athletics basically has no protection from antitrust laws.

Years ago I took a sociology course called “Sports and Society”. Our professor brought in a guest speaker that was an attorney specializing in Sports Law. I posed the question “How could the Supreme Court uphold the antitrust exemptions for professional leagues and ownerships when it is clear the NFL, MLB and others clearly operate as monopolies and squeeze out any competition?”

The attorney scratched his head, smiled and said “well the Supreme Court isn’t always right. Remember when it came to Plessy versus Ferguson, the Court also ruled “separate was equal”. So your answers are as good as mine…”
 
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EDIT: Apparently the NFL does have a limited exemption (for broadcasting rights). However, MLB has a blanket exemption. NFL has been sued and lost multiple times because of this.

Players and teams have the CBA that dictates what they can/can't do and all parties have agreed to that. No such thing (currently) exists at a college level.

NIL exists because of the absence of any agreements.
And the exemption received by MLB in the 1920’s was upheld because the court ruled that “exhibitions of athletic skill do not fall into the realm of interstate commerce”.

So a league that the collective value of the teams is approaching $80 billion isn’t “commerce”. 😂

The NFL did get stung for antitrust violations for restricting viewerships in certain markets via the NFL Network Sunday Ticket package.
 

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