This is the only way the next two debates will be watchable. Sadly, it will never happen.
First Debate
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As Earle was saying (and I can't disagree) - someone would have HAD to have had control of PFC Bone Spurs' mic.
But if anyone REALLY wonders who "won".........Trump spent half the night retweeting nonsense about having to take on BOTH Biden and Wallace. The one who lost the debate is always the one that complains about "it was two against one."
This whole "he's a fighter" nonsense.....the only fighting he does is to try and keep his behind out of jail.
I am certainly not undecided but watched just to see the train wreck I knew I was getting.
Trump Interrupts Joe Biden Talking About Dead Son To Call The One That‘s Still Alive A Deadbeat
This headline captures the most personally upsetting moment in the debate. I believe forum guidelines restrict me from observing that anyone who still supports this man is moral compost, so I won't say that.
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This headline captures the most personally upsetting moment in the debate. I believe forum guidelines restrict me from observing that anyone who still supports this man is moral compost, so I won't say that.
Trump Interrupts Joe Biden Talking About Dead Son to Call the One Who’s Still Alive a Deadbeat
Trump used the first presidential debate to underscore that he’s a despicable human being.
I might watch a town hall style debate. At least, I'd watch the beginning to see if Trump allows Biden to answer the questions.
These debates are really about two things: Trump letting America know his agenda for the next 4 years, and Biden letting America know his plan. From what I have read this morning, neither happened last night. So, it was a waste of everyone's time.
Biden wants to talk to America about its future, and Trump isn't about to let that happen.
These debates are really about two things: Trump letting America know his agenda for the next 4 years, and Biden letting America know his plan. From what I have read this morning, neither happened last night. So, it was a waste of everyone's time.
Biden wants to talk to America about its future, and Trump isn't about to let that happen.
I saved myself the annoyance by not watching any of it. I learned all I need to know by hearing Biden's quote, "It is what it is because you are who you are". That sums it in a nutshell!
Didn't watch it. Not going to watch any of them. I'm just waiting until Oct 12 so I can go early vote straight Democrat on my ballot.
So grateful I decided to read a book instead. Even short clips of the debate are making my ears bleed.
But I hear you can cure bleeding ears with hydroxychloroquine......
My first patient, a very bright fifteen year old, said, "They treated the moderator like a substitute teacher." 
If I had to score the debate, I think it ultimately was a win for Trump.
People firmly in Trump's camp will have come away believing that Trump completely owned Biden.
People firmly in Biden's camp will have come away seeing a lying, bombastic, unpresidential clown.
What follows is my own observations about people who say they are still undecided.
The kinds of individuals who could possibly still be undecided are those who can't or won't take the time to do independent research. Often they are swayed by those in a position of power making blanket statements. So comments by the president last night regarding the fact that Biden would have had 2M dead due to corona, or that Biden will usher in a wave of socialism otherwise he has lost the left, or that Biden finished last at a college he can't remember, will all leave marks. They have already proven the willingness to give the president the benefit of the doubt. They have already shown that they are unwilling do their own fact checking. I keep coming back to the fact that when talking to people who say they are undecided and you start digging into their reasons for being undecided, it is largely a recitation of Fox News talking points. I am shocked by the number of times that I hear "Hmm I didn't know that." or "That can't be true, I saw it on the news." Generally they have tended to be older people who make good wages, are retired, working but aren't really affected by coronavirus, or have a very nice standard of living.
Due to all of the above, I am more with CA. They may not like the moron currently in office, and they desperately are hoping that they are given a clear cut reason to not vote for him. However the only places they are willing to go to try and find a reason are either Fox News or Facebook.
Whether a new debate would help or not, I am more of the opinion that if Biden doesn't debate again, he will be portrayed as scared of Trump, which will play into Trump and his supporters' strongman fantasies. If he does debate, it will be just as bad as it was last night, but at least he won't appear to be conceding the presidency before the election is even held.
People firmly in Trump's camp will have come away believing that Trump completely owned Biden.
People firmly in Biden's camp will have come away seeing a lying, bombastic, unpresidential clown.
What follows is my own observations about people who say they are still undecided.
The kinds of individuals who could possibly still be undecided are those who can't or won't take the time to do independent research. Often they are swayed by those in a position of power making blanket statements. So comments by the president last night regarding the fact that Biden would have had 2M dead due to corona, or that Biden will usher in a wave of socialism otherwise he has lost the left, or that Biden finished last at a college he can't remember, will all leave marks. They have already proven the willingness to give the president the benefit of the doubt. They have already shown that they are unwilling do their own fact checking. I keep coming back to the fact that when talking to people who say they are undecided and you start digging into their reasons for being undecided, it is largely a recitation of Fox News talking points. I am shocked by the number of times that I hear "Hmm I didn't know that." or "That can't be true, I saw it on the news." Generally they have tended to be older people who make good wages, are retired, working but aren't really affected by coronavirus, or have a very nice standard of living.
Due to all of the above, I am more with CA. They may not like the moron currently in office, and they desperately are hoping that they are given a clear cut reason to not vote for him. However the only places they are willing to go to try and find a reason are either Fox News or Facebook.
Whether a new debate would help or not, I am more of the opinion that if Biden doesn't debate again, he will be portrayed as scared of Trump, which will play into Trump and his supporters' strongman fantasies. If he does debate, it will be just as bad as it was last night, but at least he won't appear to be conceding the presidency before the election is even held.
I'm still disgusted over the whole "your son is a drug addict" line of attack. Typical of this soulless sleazeball but - I mean, I'll admit I don't watch as many debates as the average Joe (pardon the pun), but...
- I don't recall Reagan going after Billy Carter in the debate (and that was MUCH more relevant)
- I don't recall Clinton or Perot going after Bush's son, who had an S and L (Perot said he had things on Bush's sons, but he didn't do it during the debate and said it to Bush's proverbial face at least)
I mean, come on.
- I don't recall Reagan going after Billy Carter in the debate (and that was MUCH more relevant)
- I don't recall Clinton or Perot going after Bush's son, who had an S and L (Perot said he had things on Bush's sons, but he didn't do it during the debate and said it to Bush's proverbial face at least)
I mean, come on.
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