Hamas attacks Israel - Part 2

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That’s the past. You can’t go back. What do you do now?
Well the problem is that the past matters for the future.

Hamas is an idea. An idea that the PLO were cowards for allowing Israel to maintain their conquered and colonized lands. An idea that suggests Israel desires to continuously conquering the area until there is no Palestinian state. An idea that Israel seeks to conquer Jerusalem.

An idea is only as strong as its credibility and ability to influence. The problem is that Israel has this long history of taking more and more territory away from Palestine after each war, and Bibi’s administration has been extremely aggressive in its operations and posturing against the Palestinians. I mean the sanctions and blockade of Gaza creates just as many if not more freedom fighters as Hamas does with propaganda. So Israel has a huge amount of credit for creating their own problems.

Me personally I think they should kill the leaders behind the attack and pull out with what hostages that they can find. I think the only real solution to Hamas is to find a long term economic plan where Gaza can coexist with Israel and the West Bank. I know it’s pie in the sky kinda talk but unless your plan is ultimate annihilation… then what plan do you really see bearing any long term success in fighting Hamas? I mean the Americans fought a war for 20 years against the Taliban and lost it in 48 hrs. At some point you have to kill the idea without military domination.
 

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FYI, there's video footage circulating of first responders removing a child's body from the site of an Israeli bombing attack in Gaza. Regardless of your position on the conflict, you do NOT want to watch this video. Trust me.

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Well the problem is that the past matters for the future.

Hamas is an idea. An idea that the PLO were cowards for allowing Israel to maintain their conquered and colonized lands. An idea that suggests Israel desires to continuously conquering the area until there is no Palestinian state. An idea that Israel seeks to conquer Jerusalem.

An idea is only as strong as its credibility and ability to influence. The problem is that Israel has this long history of taking more and more territory away from Palestine after each war, and Bibi’s administration has been extremely aggressive in its operations and posturing against the Palestinians. I mean the sanctions and blockade of Gaza creates just as many if not more freedom fighters as Hamas does with propaganda. So Israel has a huge amount of credit for creating their own problems.

Me personally I think they should kill the leaders behind the attack and pull out with what hostages that they can find. I think the only real solution to Hamas is to find a long term economic plan where Gaza can coexist with Israel and the West Bank. I know it’s pie in the sky kinda talk but unless your plan is ultimate annihilation… then what plan do you really see bearing any long term success in fighting Hamas? I mean the Americans fought a war for 20 years against the Taliban and lost it in 48 hrs. At some point you have to kill the idea without military domination.
Bibi is fighting this war in order to stay in power and thus stay out of jail. Period. He has no post-war plan other than wistful thinking that the Palestinians will just disappear. He's even suggested other lands for them to migrate to. Ultimately, he will be questioned so much, his fragile coalition will fall apart and all which will be left will be the ruins of Gaza...
 

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Bibi is fighting this war in order to stay in power and thus stay out of jail. Period. He has no post-war plan other than wistful thinking that the Palestinians will just disappear. He's even suggested other lands for them to migrate to. Ultimately, he will be questioned so much, his fragile coalition will fall apart and all which will be left will be the ruins of Gaza...
The way I understand the situation there is a war cabinet. It’s led by a unity government from multiple parties on both sides of the aisle. He’s the prime minister but all major political leaders are in agreement. Including Benny Gantz, the most likely replacement for Bibi. There doesn’t seem to be any daylight between the two of them on Hamas. Gantz wants to go into Rafah as well.

 

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JERUSALEM — The Israeli military said Friday its troops in Gaza found the bodies of three Israeli hostages killed by Hamas during its Oct. 7 attack, including German-Israeli Shani Louk.

A photo of 22-year-old Shani’s twisted body in the back of a pickup truck ricocheted around the world and brought to light the scale of the militants’ attack on communities in southern Israel. The military identified the other two bodies as those of a 28-year-old woman, Amit Buskila, and a 56-year-old man, Itzhak Gelerenter.
 
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