How did SEC refs miss...

Squall

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restarting the clock in Fla/ TEnn game??? were they ever reprinmanded for that???? you start the clock on a n offensive peneatly, this isn't hard. 24 ,more seconds gone and tenn had so change to win
 
The crew as will not call F games

Well if that is true what if any thing will be done to the crew that gave LSU thier gift win over UA!
drjamesm
 
dr james, i know it sux how bad the calls against lsyu were, but thsoe were "opinion" calls. bad ones, but still could be soemone's opinion. In the UF game, refs forgot to restart the clock, which is black/white, nothing to think about, jsut do it thing.



ugh, BJ Blake from Tennesee, great call inthe lsu game....DlCK!
 
Squall said:
restarting the clock in Fla/ TEnn game??? were they ever reprinmanded for that???? you start the clock on a n offensive peneatly, this isn't hard. 24 ,more seconds gone and tenn had so change to win

Same way they missed the pass interference against LSU in the Bama game.

Same way they called a celebration against us in the Arkansas game in 2003.

Same way they called roughing the holder against LSU when their man was blocked into the Auburn holder.

Same way they missed 12 men on the field against Arkansas TWICE.

Same way the guy closest to the play didn't throw a flag in the Bama-Arkansas game of 1997 (or was it 1998) on an Arkansas 4th down incompletion, but the guy all the way across the field did.

They're at best incompetent, and I'm running out of reasons to believe they're not biased.

When somebody other than Tennessee, Arkansas and Auburn get bad calls in their favor at game changing points in pivotal contests, I'll upgrade my opinion to simply incompetent.
 
well whats done is done. lets remember that these refs are humans and unfortunately human make mistakes. granted there were 2 very bad calls in the florida/tennesse game allowing ut to win the game. also there have been some calls that have been made against bama ie the minnesota fumble in the bowl game, but i do not think it is favoritism towards any one team. it is easy to criticize and complain after the fact but you were not on the field at that moment and at that time. also one play does not effect the outcome of any game (unless of course it happens at the end like uf and ut). in games where there were bad calls who knows what could have happened because as my dad always said if is a big word. hopefully instant replay will change some of these bad calls but i don't think it will solve it completely because even the cameras can only see so much. afterall it still has the human factor
 
mmmm... dude

drjamesm said:
Well if that is true what if any thing will be done to the crew that gave LSU thier gift win over UA!
drjamesm
Believe it or not, it was the same crew.
I read it in the Tuscaloosa news after it happened.

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4Q Basket Case said:
Same way they called a celebration against us in the Arkansas game in 2003.

The correct call was made after that play. I hate celebration penalties but the rule is the rule. We did celebrate to the point to draw a flag.

Also, didn't LSU get scewed in 1999 when we stopped them on that play around the goal line? Marvin Constant got hurt and needed attention but I think the clock ran out anyway. It was something like that.

Bad officiating is bad officiating. Sometimes it helps you and other times it bites you.
 
BamaJeff said:
The correct call was made after that play. I hate celebration penalties but the rule is the rule. We did celebrate to the point to draw a flag.
That one was marginal. One ref--the ref closest to the play--was in the process of warning the players to break it up when another ref ran from the other side of the field to throw the flag.

If it had been one player tearing off his helmet--hell yes, throw the flag. But this was a bunch of teammates celebrating, and is the sort of thing that referees should give a little leeway on, and they probably would have for any other team. And later in the overtime, an Arkansas player ran over and GRABBED an official to protest a non-call, and didn't get flagged.
 
CrimsonVan

Instant reply will help but it's not a cure all. It would have done nothing to change the missed pass interference call vs LSU. It wouldn't have helped UF in the game vs UT either.
 
At best it is incompetence.... At worst its intentional.


Guess which way I am leaning? The SEC has an agenda and the games are often severly tilted and this decision is made well before kickoff.


SEC Official's rule #1 - "when in doubt, screw Bama"
 
BamaJeff said:
CrimsonVan

Instant reply will help but it's not a cure all. It would have done nothing to change the missed pass interference call vs LSU. It wouldn't have helped UF in the game vs UT either.

Which is why I said "always" when refering to the refs.

Dropped catches, out of bounds TD's, and so forth...

UT/UF always seems to have those TD catches not really in bounds.
 
BamaJeff said:
The correct call was made after that play. I hate celebration penalties but the rule is the rule. We did celebrate to the point to draw a flag.

Also, didn't LSU get scewed in 1999 when we stopped them on that play around the goal line? Marvin Constant got hurt and needed attention but I think the clock ran out anyway. It was something like that.

Bad officiating is bad officiating. Sometimes it helps you and other times it bites you.

Bobby Gaston, the SEC supervisor of officials, was very critical of the peanlty in the '03 Arkansas game. That right there tells me all I need to know.

I don't have the 99 LSU game on tape. But, from what I remember, with 2 seconds left, one official tried to stop the clock with Marvin hurt. But, no one saw him and time expired.
 
Referees have natural biases, always have and always will. Unforunately, they also bet on football games. The only way to control it, (You won't ever eliminate it.) would be by harsh and sudden actions, suspensions and terminations. That non-call in the LSU game last season should have warranted a suspension. Anyone caught gambling (even parlay cards) should be immediately banned with no chance for reinstatement.
 
Does anyone know how many SEC refs played SEC football? I don't, but
I think at least some of them have played SEC football, now having said that, if you played in the SEC and got your butt handed to you by the Crimson Tide for 4 years, it would be impossible for you to not have a small bias against the Tide. So they find themselves calling a Bama game, a play happens and they can make a no-call or a call that might just might hurt the Tide, what do they do? I say they make the call against us. Human nature is biased, I think SEC refs are biased, I think they make the call. I think the NCAA is biased, I think the world is biased. The media is biased. We're all biased. I say it's impossible to be totally unbiased about anything you are involved in.

YES, call me crazy, but I believe in the conspiracy theory! I think we will see a difference with instant replay, I think it helps the game, not hurt it. RTR.
 
TideHead said:
I don't have the 99 LSU game on tape. But, from what I remember, with 2 seconds left, one official tried to stop the clock with Marvin hurt. But, no one saw him and time expired.

So why wasn't time put back on the clock? If the same thing had happened to Bama, it would be CONSPIRACY!!!!!

As for last year's LSU game, I know the refs need to improve but I don't think they cost Bama the game. I don't think we would have won that game anyway. Remember we did have a TD called back in that game because of a false start on the O line. It was the correct call too! That was Bama's fault. So the missed pass interference call was not the only momentum killer that night!
 

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