Indiana DC X War Against Ty Simpson
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I by no means am advocating this, but this thing is becoming a wildfire on social media and a lot of the comments are ratcheting up. Cig better bring this guy in and tell him to back off just from the simple fact that though a portion of the Alabama fanbase likes to pride themselves by acting with class. There's an entirely different subdivision of the fanbase that poisons trees, shoots relatives, and burns things to the ground. The best thing for the IU DC to do is just leave it alone and go about his business before he incites another "Harvey UpDyke" freak.
To a lot of folks in college football, Cig/Indiana was/were like the "new money" gal on the Titanic, who was the real hero of the show!
Except now she's gone and kicked Rose off the headboard, and she's acting like the small lifeboat that saved her was the Titanic all along!
Let's hope that minority side of our fanbase doesn't show up again in that way!
However, it's refreshing to see in the comments on X that even many non-Bama people are siding with Ty/Bama on this one.
He might want to stay out of the Krystal in the French Quarter for a while.
I notice you didn't use blue font and rightfully so. In today's social media-triggered society, you don't ever know what nut is going to lose it behind a keyboard and find "you" in public. Mr. IU Defensive Coordinator better back away and just leave it alone or he could find himself tapped out in a Krystals bathroom.
Local radio here in Hville this morning had Ryan Fowler saying that perhaps the DC was triggered by Ty and Downs (perhaps hinting in coach/player speak, I wouldn't be able to decipher the code) that Indiana was cheating, a la Harbaugh and Connor Stalions.
In other words, he said "The Lady doth protest too much". As in, if you were innocent, you would have taken it as a compliment. Or just, if you were smart, you wouldn't say ANYTHING. This DC makes himself sound like a guilty idiot.
In other words, he said "The Lady doth protest too much". As in, if you were innocent, you would have taken it as a compliment. Or just, if you were smart, you wouldn't say ANYTHING. This DC makes himself sound like a guilty idiot.
Indiana's hubris will be their ultimate downfall. There's a reason Saban never talked trash, or let his staff talk trash. At some point, it WILL.come back to bite you in the butt. Mendoza happened to be a wonderful young man, who was no doubt a great locker room leader, and offset the hubris of this staff. What's going to happen when they have a locker room leader who is just as cocky as the coaching staff? The rest of the locker room will follow suit, and they are bound to spiral in spectacular fashion. This is a great two year run they've been on, but it sure seems like it might be a house of cards waiting to come crashing down. Plenty of coaches have had great 2-3 year runs, but what made Saban the GOAT was that he was one of only a few to sustain that level of success long term.
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Haines is a clown, and she needs to change up her meds.
Here’s the deal with football: all other things being equal, the team that makes the fewest mistakes wins. The team that capitalizes more on its opponents’ mistakes wins. More often than not, the winning team lets the losing team beat themselves. Playing clean football is undervalued. That’s why early-season penalties from bama always grate on me so much. It indicates to me that we’re not focusing enough in the offseason on playing mistake-free ball.
From the middle of the season onward, I started watching Indiana because you could tell that they were doing something pretty special. And what that something was was incredibly, historically flawless. They weren’t playing any complicated or exotic defensive or offensive schemes. They weren’t starting many, if any 4 and 5 star studs. But they were starting a whole boatload of fifth year 3-star dudes who had 100% bought into a cignetti-led culture of practice-to-perfection to the point that they executed relatively bland football absolutely flawlessly. And flawless bland football tends to trump mistake-prone supercar football 90% of the time. Mid-season onward, I started telling people that Indiana DOES NOT beat itself. It does not make mistakes to exploit. It plays each run-of-the-mill play PERFECTLY. So to beat them, you cannot rely on capitalizing on any mistakes. The only way to beat them is to play nearly as mistake-free as they do AND hope your 4 and 5 star sophomores and juniors can out-play their 100% bought in fifth year seniors. That’s a tall order, to check both those boxes.
That’s what Ty was saying. He knew what they were going to do, because he watched film study, and they did what they do: nothing special. But they did it so flawlessly and perfectly that knowing what they were doing didn’t help. He didn’t just imply that that was a compliment to coaching. He outright said it: Indiana’s flawless play was due to outstanding coaching (and it is).
As others here have said, Haines is just looking for an edge, something to keep her guys feeling disrespected. She’s trying to avoid the rat poison. Either that, or she needs to change her meds.
Here’s the deal with football: all other things being equal, the team that makes the fewest mistakes wins. The team that capitalizes more on its opponents’ mistakes wins. More often than not, the winning team lets the losing team beat themselves. Playing clean football is undervalued. That’s why early-season penalties from bama always grate on me so much. It indicates to me that we’re not focusing enough in the offseason on playing mistake-free ball.
From the middle of the season onward, I started watching Indiana because you could tell that they were doing something pretty special. And what that something was was incredibly, historically flawless. They weren’t playing any complicated or exotic defensive or offensive schemes. They weren’t starting many, if any 4 and 5 star studs. But they were starting a whole boatload of fifth year 3-star dudes who had 100% bought into a cignetti-led culture of practice-to-perfection to the point that they executed relatively bland football absolutely flawlessly. And flawless bland football tends to trump mistake-prone supercar football 90% of the time. Mid-season onward, I started telling people that Indiana DOES NOT beat itself. It does not make mistakes to exploit. It plays each run-of-the-mill play PERFECTLY. So to beat them, you cannot rely on capitalizing on any mistakes. The only way to beat them is to play nearly as mistake-free as they do AND hope your 4 and 5 star sophomores and juniors can out-play their 100% bought in fifth year seniors. That’s a tall order, to check both those boxes.
That’s what Ty was saying. He knew what they were going to do, because he watched film study, and they did what they do: nothing special. But they did it so flawlessly and perfectly that knowing what they were doing didn’t help. He didn’t just imply that that was a compliment to coaching. He outright said it: Indiana’s flawless play was due to outstanding coaching (and it is).
As others here have said, Haines is just looking for an edge, something to keep her guys feeling disrespected. She’s trying to avoid the rat poison. Either that, or she needs to change her meds.
Cignitti promotes this attitude so what’s new? They won and they have a lot of sunshine to bask in. They have a lot going for them to make them believe they are going to maintain. But it’s foolish to think Ohio St and Michigan won’t start to make moves to make their standings more shaky.
That was one of the first things I thought of too. I almost posted this in the other thread about the alleged Indiana cheating because there's a good chance there's a connection. But figuring it was a story to itself, I started a new thread.
But here's what makes me go hmmm. It's one thing to be basic and vanilla and be very good at that. If that's all this is good for Indiana playing some perfect football. This is what Bama usually does to a directional school we play before the IB each year!!!
But Ty referenced that what he was used to seeing was more complex stuff in the SEC, but Indiana did nothing like that. So to a QB who recognizes what's going on presnap (and Ty had that ability), there was no reason to audible out of the play if he thought what we had called fit the defense he saw. But since defense is typically read/react, if they had an advantage of knowing what we were doing, it takes the read part out, and their reactions put them in the perfect place to defend our plays as if they knew exactly "where" to be faster than we could even get there!
I know watching the game, it "felt" like they were always in the perfect place on defense.
It "felt" like what I saw us do against Miami in dominating the best offense in football in the 1992 NC Game.
Now, we weren't like Miami's offense in 2025, but do we think Indiana was like Alabama's defense in 1992???
So going back to their DC's protesting of Ty's compliment, maybe there was more going on than just good ole, basic, vanilla defense.
And if Ty and Caleb Downs intention was to "trigger" Indiana's DC, it seems it worked perfectly.
If I'm ranking "who" has Indiana's attention right now, Alabama's high on the list, but I guarantee you TOSU and Meatchicken is tied at #1.
Indiana's little two year run to the top of the B1G would be similar to Miss. State or South Carolina doing this in the SEC!
Prior to this year Indiana had the most losses of any team ever in college football. It is now Northwestern. In the SEC, that distinction belongs to Vandy.
I agree that their DC seems to have misinterpreted Ty’s comments and was overly defensive in his response.
That said, they smashed us like a grape and completely humiliated us.
Quite frankly, they can say whatever they want.
It’s up to us to get better and tougher so this kind of thrashing doesn’t happen again.
Until proven otherwise, we’re a soft team that is often unprepared, outcoached and outplayed…even in some games we manage to win.
That is 100% on us and no one else.
That said, they smashed us like a grape and completely humiliated us.
Quite frankly, they can say whatever they want.
It’s up to us to get better and tougher so this kind of thrashing doesn’t happen again.
Until proven otherwise, we’re a soft team that is often unprepared, outcoached and outplayed…even in some games we manage to win.
That is 100% on us and no one else.
Fair, but it's just unconventional for a Defensive Coordinator to get into a social media argument. It's way out of line for his profession.
And it's not just Alabama fans who are bothered.
I know...amazing isn't it!
Yes, ordinarily, Vandy would have been the team to use, but due to their recent success in the SEC, that didn't fit the narrative as well.
Plus, the B1G equivalent of Vandy is Northwestern, and somehow, if we used Vandy, Indiana might gloat about that comparison!
I saw a post somewhere that said the reason the B1G has so many teams with a lot of losses is because they have been playing longer than anyone else. Seriously, they believed that was something to brag about.
It was discussed a few times how little IU practiced and how much they studied film etc. I think they indeed looked for every edge off the field, they likely took the scouting to another level. I suspect they used AI to chart probabilities of formations, plays, personnel, signals, tells, etc and drilled their players on it. Their defense was in the right position 95% of the time such that a mature 3* player can be in a winning defensive position, because surprise has been minimized.
I suspect you study an opponent enough tendencies can be reduced to will-dos. Its this kind of cutting edge scouting with limited NIL resources and the spreading of talent across teams that will define the winners in CFB going forward. And its way cheaper than just chasing after the most expensive players. Moneyball.
I suspect you study an opponent enough tendencies can be reduced to will-dos. Its this kind of cutting edge scouting with limited NIL resources and the spreading of talent across teams that will define the winners in CFB going forward. And its way cheaper than just chasing after the most expensive players. Moneyball.
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