Interesting Science Stuff

[4Q Basket Case]

Can one get the measles if they've been vaccinated?

I've been researching a similar question: I had red measles as a child, about 7 or 8 years old. Do I need the vaccine?

Everything I've found says, "No. You're immune."

Of course, there are rare cases of re-infection even among people who've already had it. But the consensus is if you've already had measles, you're good for life.

The word on having had the vaccine is close, but not quite that strong. If you were vaccinated before 1967, or work in public-facing healthcare, or are immuno-compromised, or planning to travel internationally (especially to developing countries), you might want to consider a booster.

Side note: Even at that young age, I still remember how miserable I felt for what seemed like an eternity. Missed a week of school, and I rarely missed school at all. That would have been 1966 or 67, and I'm not sure if I was vaccinated. Probably not.

The Basket Cases are going across the pond in the next few months, and we both plan to get a COVID booster about 3 weeks ahead of 8 hours in the germ tube.

 

[NationalTitles18]

Can one get the measles if they've been vaccinated?

Still possible but would usually be a mild case.

I had diagnosed and physician confirmed chickenpox as a kid and later as an adult. Unusual but it does happen. (To be clear: yes, different diseases but still applies)

also, pertussis boosters are recommended for some and tetanus boosters are a fact of life.

 

[Padreruf]

My reason for asking is this...if you're not immunized then you are the one at risk, not those who have been. Since my Stem Cell Transplant I have had all the immunization shots and some 2-3 times, i.e., Covid, flu, boosters, etc. I think I've even had the MMR 2x. All I know is that other than one slight case of Covid that lasted @ 3 days, I've had NOTHING! And this was with my immune system being wiped out and reborn.

Sounds to me like Darwin is at work thinning out the gene pool. ( I hate to say it that way, but that's the truth.)

 

[NationalTitles18]

My reason for asking is this...if you're not immunized then you are the one at risk, not those who have been. Since my Stem Cell Transplant I have had all the immunization shots and some 2-3 times, i.e., Covid, flu, boosters, etc. I think I've even had the MMR 2x. All I know is that other than one slight case of Covid that lasted @ 3 days, I've had NOTHING! And this was with my immune system being wiped out and reborn.

Sounds to me like Darwin is at work thinning out the gene pool. ( I hate to say it that way, but that's the truth.)

unfortunately, the kid never had a chance to be competent to make their own decision. Forget darwin. That's just poor decision making from the parents and it caused their child to die.

 

[Padreruf]

unfortunately, the kid never had a chance to be competent to make their own decision. Forget darwin. That's just poor decision making from the parents and it caused their child to die.

Could not agree more...I was just pointing out that these actions hurt those who either have idiotic parents or themselves make bad decisions. I've watched this scenario repeatedly through my life, in everything from fireworks, guns, motorcycles and you name it. It is sad when anyone does something like this...it is tragic when a child pays the price for parental stupidity.

I cannot believe what our country has become...

 

[NationalTitles18]

Could not agree more...I was just pointing out that these actions hurt those who either have idiotic parents or themselves make bad decisions. I've watched this scenario repeatedly through my life, in everything from fireworks, guns, motorcycles and you name it. It is sad when anyone does something like this...it is tragic when a child pays the price for parental stupidity.

I cannot believe what our country has become...

Amen and amen, Padre.

 

[Bamaro]

New Record: Reactor Crosses 'Crucial Milestone' in Achieving Nuclear Fusion
French scientists on Tuesday announced that they had reached a "crucial milestone" in the long road towards nuclear fusion by managing to maintain raging-hot plasma for a record 22 minutes.
This "smashed" the previous record set in China last month by 25 percent, said the CEA, which runs the tokamak machine.
New Record: Reactor Crosses 'Crucial Milestone' in Achieving Nuclear Fusion : ScienceAlert

 

[NationalTitles18]

I just picture Doc Ock standing there doing these experiments.

 

[NationalTitles18]

More measles cases in NJ.

Once again and as usual, an unvaccinated international traveler returned home and spread it to at least two more unvaccinated people.

These events have become more common as more people go unvaccinated, but they usually peter out after a handful of cases.

There is the real possibility that instead of it being brought back home by US international travelers that it will again become endemic in the US. We need a vaccination rate of about 95% to keep that from happening and we just aren't there.

Before vaccines, the case fatality rate was 1 to 2 out of 100 people infected (1-2%).

Pneumonia occurs in about 1/20 cases.

Encephalitis (brain inflammation) occurs in 1 in 1000 to 2000 cases.

Rarely, and years after infection (7-10 years), Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE) occurs. This is often fatal.

1/5 unvaccinated people with measles require hospitalization.

Current CFRs are in the 1-3/1000 range, give or take.

The disease can be generally be prevent with vaccination and high vaccination rates stop community spread.

Before vaccines in the US 400-500/year died from measles.

There is no credible evidence that vaccines cause autism.

 

[NationalTitles18]

 

[Bamaro]

 

[Tidewater]

I thought this was interesting.
Not trying to get into politics, but how do you preserve an iron item that was soaking in saltwater for a century and a half?
The pulled up the turret of the Monitor, put it in a huge tank of water, and, over several years, have gradually been lowering the salinity of the water until one day, they will be able to display it without water.

But first they have to flip it over right side up.

 

[NationalTitles18]

I thought this was interesting.
Not trying to get into politics, but how do you preserve an iron item that was soaking in saltwater for a century and a half?
The pulled up the turret of the Monitor, put it in a huge tank of water, and, over several years, have gradually been lowering the salinity of the water until one day, they will be able to display it without water.

But first they have to flip it over right side up.

Lord, if anything in your post or the video is considered politics we are doomed anyway.

Great historical artifact. Glad it is being preserved with the use of scientifically proven methods.

Thanks for posting.

 

[Tidewater]

Lord, if anything in your post or the video is considered politics we are doomed anyway.

Great historical artifact. Glad it is being preserved with the use of scientifically proven methods.

Thanks for posting.

In this day and age, anything can go political in the blink of an eye.
Anyway, the Mariner's Museum in Norfolk is worth a visit. It is a little pricey ($35 I think), but they have to pay for things like the Monitor turret, and maintaining the USS Wisconsin.
Most of the Monitor was wood. The deck had armor plating I think, but the ship itself rotted away a long time ago. Glad they saved the turret, though.

 

[NationalTitles18]

In this day and age, anything can go political in the blink of an eye.
Anyway, the Mariner's Museum in Norfolk is worth a visit. It is a little pricey ($35 I think), but they have to pay for things like the Monitor turret, and maintaining the USS Wisconsin.
Most of the Monitor was wood. The deck had armor plating I think, but the ship itself rotted away a long time ago. Glad they saved the turret, though.

Oh, I know it can - even things that shouldn't.

Anyway, sounds like a great place. I enjoy a good historical field trip/vacation and museums. Got to visit the USS Alabama and the aviation museum there a few years ago and really enjoyed myself.

I'm a hoot, I tell ya!

 

[NationalTitles18]

Transgenic mice are cool.

 

[OakMtn4Bama]

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/03/250312124602.htm

Black holes: not endings, but beginnings? New research could revolutionize our understanding of the universe
The more we know, the less we know.

 

[crimsonaudio]

This is quite clever.

New cancer cure 'disguises' tumors as pork to trigger immune attack

Chinese researchers turned the immune response to organ transplant rejection to cure cancer with a 90% success rate.

interestingengineering.com

 

[OakMtn4Bama]

This is quite clever.

New cancer cure 'disguises' tumors as pork to trigger immune attack

Chinese researchers turned the immune response to organ transplant rejection to cure cancer with a 90% success rate.

interestingengineering.com

That's amazing. Probably needs much more testing, but could be a huge breakthrough. I would do it now, if I had to!

 

[NationalTitles18]

That's amazing. Probably needs much more testing, but could be a huge breakthrough. I would do it now, if I had to!

If it turns out to be valid research and replicable then it's huge, but we're a long way from that.

Same for the mRNA pancreatic cancer vaccine, so long as the funding doesn't get cancelled.

That is not a political statement, but a matter of fact statement.

In Early-Phase Pancreatic Cancer Clinical Trial, Investigational mRNA Vaccine Induces Sustained Immune Activity in Small Patient Group

Learn how MSK researchers are deploying mRNA vaccines against pancreatic cancer.

www.mskcc.org