If Clemson wins big, Alabama will wind up at 10, IMO.
Is there a scenario where we still back into the playoffs?
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He did! It’s on TF somewhere…it’s a first person quote.
Yes, agreed.
If Clemson wins big, they knock SMU out entirely, and they jump to #4 (If Boise loses) and #12 (If Boise wins)
If Clemson and UNLV win......then ASU - ISU winner gets #3.....Clemson gets #4.....UNLV gets #12.
These byes are hot garbage.
Jim Phillips of the ACC already whining about Alabama being ahead of Miami and basically telling the committee they “can’t drop SMU out if they lose to Clemson” Saturday.
This committee certainly can keep SMU in. I wouldn’t trust them as far as I could throw Warde Manual after Thanksgiving dinner. IMO SMU must win for us to stay in. Clemson would have to absolutely destroy SMU in an embarrassing fashion for this committee to kick them out after the championship game.
I agree that SMU and Boise State haven’t played anyone. Nor Miami for that matter. But this committee has left the door open for two ACC bids if Clemson wins.
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And if Clemson squeaks by? Say a 24-21 last minute win? Does this committee keep SMU in? THAT is my thought. If Clemson wins, we need them to destroy SMU.
Occam’s Razor…often times the simplest answer is the correct answer.
Weird world where if we get in, the 2nd round looks like it could be an easier game than the 1st round.
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Pretty much. He didn't say there's no way to drop, say, Alabama out, but he basically says it's not gonna happen:
If Clemson wins on a last second FG then Heather Dinish can walk around saying she was right......I'd assume.
I don't watch either team enough to know anything about this game....other than SMU is favored by 2.5. The ESPN analytics says SMU has a 53.8% chance to win.
That's the extent of what I know about these teams outside of looking at who they've played.
If they aren't humbled by losses to Oklahoma and Vandy, they aren't going to be humbled. We all know the potential to make the ultimate run is within reach for this group but they are going to have to light a fire under their butt and get to work. Throw the damn stars next to your name out the window and start working like a walk on. CKD needs to start calling out the bull he is seeing that is keeping this team from reaching its potential and lets go play like Bama plays. Bring in some Julio's and Ingram's in a few times over the weeks of preparation for the playoffs and let them be the bad guy if you have to. We are all sick of the coddling. It's time to man up and be a DOG! In between the whistles be nasty and dominate. We may not have everything we want but we have everything we need.
Neutral site game, Jim.
You can do it without anyone finding out.
Who ya bettin' on in the Alabama vs Miami game?
For those of you worried about us not making it, let me put it this way. If the committee didn't want us in, they would have done it this week. The band aid has been ripped off. Bama is in and they aren't changing that now. It would be asinine to your marquee conference and biggest money contributor to catapult them up and then take them off during the last poll. We won't move up or down regardless of what happens. ND/Alabama is a mega game that everyone will watch. This is about being fair, but it is also about money. Alabama deserves to be in (in a 12 team format), but they also make sense to be in from an economic standpoint.
We're currently the last at-large team in the playoff.
The way I heard Manuel's statement, none of the 3-loss teams that aren't in a conference championship game will jump us. So USCe and OM are out.
That doesn't mean we can't fall out of the playoff. Just that neither USCe nor OM will be there in our place.
UTw and UGA are in regardless of the outcome of the SECCG. It's just a question of who gets a bye and where the loser is seeded. IOW, no effect on us.
Same thing for Oregon and PSU in the B1G.
The real issue for us is the ACCCG. If SMU wins, Clemson is out (they're currently behind us anyway) and we're safe. But if Clemson wins, they get the automatic spot as conference champs. The question then becomes how far, if any, would SMU fall?
Right now, thery're #8. Would they fall out altogether? If so, we're still in. If not, Clemson gets our spot....not because the committee perceives them as a better or even more deserving team...but because they're ACC champs.
My personal take is that if SMU loses, they might fall some. But the committee has already said that participants in conference championship games won't be unduly penalized for a loss. So if SMU loses, but doesn't get totally blown out and embarrassed, I might see them falling. But not all the way out.
Bottom Line: SMU wins: we're in. Clemson wins by less than 35 or so: we're out. Go Ponies!
Side Note: It's our own fault we're in this position. If we don't yak up hairballs against both Vandy and OU, we're in regardless. Might even be in the SECCG.
The way I heard Manuel's statement, none of the 3-loss teams that aren't in a conference championship game will jump us. So USCe and OM are out.
That doesn't mean we can't fall out of the playoff. Just that neither USCe nor OM will be there in our place.
UTw and UGA are in regardless of the outcome of the SECCG. It's just a question of who gets a bye and where the loser is seeded. IOW, no effect on us.
Same thing for Oregon and PSU in the B1G.
The real issue for us is the ACCCG. If SMU wins, Clemson is out (they're currently behind us anyway) and we're safe. But if Clemson wins, they get the automatic spot as conference champs. The question then becomes how far, if any, would SMU fall?
Right now, thery're #8. Would they fall out altogether? If so, we're still in. If not, Clemson gets our spot....not because the committee perceives them as a better or even more deserving team...but because they're ACC champs.
My personal take is that if SMU loses, they might fall some. But the committee has already said that participants in conference championship games won't be unduly penalized for a loss. So if SMU loses, but doesn't get totally blown out and embarrassed, I might see them falling. But not all the way out.
Bottom Line: SMU wins: we're in. Clemson wins by less than 35 or so: we're out. Go Ponies!
Side Note: It's our own fault we're in this position. If we don't yak up hairballs against both Vandy and OU, we're in regardless. Might even be in the SECCG.
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I understand what you're trying to say, but in the event Clemson wins, then we would have to move up to #10 to get in unless Clemson or the Big 12 winner were to jump us and we stay at #11.
Most everyone here in the ATL is losing their minds about bama at 11, except Mike Johnson. If we make it in, then SOS does have weight.
Guy, you need to be quiet and just believe.
I've been following this at a distance, but the way I look at it, if we get in, we can thank Bama/SEC prestige/reputation, and if we don't, we can blame ourselves for losses that shouldn't have been losses (Vandy and OU).
Bama absolutely would have been in the SECCG without projectile vomiting in Norman.
All they had to do was beat OU and AU to get to 10-2 and it would have been Texas vs Bama
The only weird tie breaker scenario was if Missouri had lost their final two games then I think would have changed it to Tenn playing Texas.
But anyway it's all irrelevant now.
I think everyone who is worrying is worrying for nothing.
If they wanted to push Bama out they would have put them at 12 to give wiggle room to move them up or down.
Bama is locked at #11 and they probably only move them to 10 or 12 if they are trying to manipulate a specific matchup.
Yes, the committee knows ND/Bama OR PSU/Bama would be the best/most watched first round game.
Shoot, who are we foolin, they could match Bama against Hamas HS and most of the country would watch to pull for an upset of Bama.
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