Jaden Rashada suing Billy Napier and others

[CrimsonBloodn62]

I'm done. My monetary contribution won't amount to a hill of beans and my focus is retirement. Ridiculous.

Will continue to cheer for the Tide. Adios!!

I wouldn't waste my money on any player's merchandise because the following year they might be playing for someone else. My only contribution will be UA merchandise, not for players.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

You're correct but the ESPN article states a "terminated" contract by the UF Collective. So there had to be a contract

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Unless the original contract was subject to UF’s collective achieving sufficient funding (and I’d be surprised if it was), not having the money to pay isn’t a way out.

Once a contract is executed, one party can’t just tell the other, “Well, turns out we don’t have the money. So your contract’s null and void.”

If the contract with the UF collective was indeed subject to funding, the player and/or his representatives are dumb as rocks.

One possibility is that the player is suing for breach of a verbal contract. Which, absent hard evidence to back up his claim, is really hard to win.

I have no idea of the blackletter reading of the contract, or its provisions for termination, or even whether a written contract exists at all.

If I had to guess, I‘d say the plaintiff is hoping for a settlement. Which, if UF and its boosters don’t want any embarrassing dirty laundry to show up in discovery, could happen.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Unless the original contract was subject to UF’s collective achieving sufficient funding (and I’d be surprised if it was), not having the money to pay isn’t a way out.

Once executed, one party can’t just tell the other, “Well, turns out we don’t have the money. So your contract’s null and void.”

If the contract with the UF collective was indeed subject to funding, the player and/or his representatives are dumb as rocks.

One possibility is that the player is suing for breach of a verbal contract. Which, absent hard evidence to back up his claim, is really hard to win.

I have no idea of the blackletter reading of the contract, or its provisions for termination, or if there even is a written contract. If I had to guess, I think the plaintiff is hoping for a settlement, which might occur because UF and its boosters don’t want any embarrassing dirty laundry to show up in discovery.

This ^^^^

Once you get outside of specific contracts and into what I call "blanket" or "general" contracts, it gets harder for the plaintiff to prove liability. But if they were dumb enough to do all of this without a contract, they deserve what they don't have coming to them and that's the $13M

 

[4Q Basket Case]

Found this article by Ronald Evans of BamaHammer:

College Football, NIL and Jaden Rashada's saga tarnishing careers

The latest episode of the Jaden Rashada's saga should surprise no one. Despite well-intentioned efforts at the start of the NIL era, it was destined for rampant

bamahammer.com

Evans is usually a bit partisan for my taste, but he raises an interesting possibility in the Rashada saga.

Evans’ sources tell him that Rashada and his handlers repeatedly tried to get a better deal.

IOW, they’d reach a verbal agreement with whatever collective, then come back wanting more. In my banking career we called that “trying to re-trade the deal.”

I have no information on what happened. But piecing together work experience and tidbits of published information, I can speculate:

Miami offers a deal. Florida offers more. Rashada accepts Florida’s offer. Lawyers get to work on papering what is to this point a verbal agreement.

Before putting pen to contract, Rashada’s camp comes back wanting a boost. Florida counters with a smaller boost. Rashad’s says he wants his number. After lots of back and forth, middle fingers flying everywhere, Florida finally throws up its hands and tells Rashada to pound sand.

Now, Rashada has no options that will pay him anywhere near what he’s already turned down from Florida. Florida is “d-u-n DONE “

So Rashada alleges breach of contract and sues, hoping Florida will pay him something to just go away.

Again, all that is speculation on my part. But it fits what’s being reported.

 

[GrayTide]

It did no take me long to push the “I no longer care button”. I mean, who did not see this coming sooner or later, it turns out to be sooner. I have supported giving players some form of compensation, but what has evolved could likely be the death knell for all college athletics. I will not go so far as to say “I’ll never watch CFB again” , but I will likely pass on games I would normally watch casually. Until some form of rules, regulations, conformity, and transparency are agreed upon and enforced, the outlook for all college athletics looks bleak.

 

[AlexanderFan]

Unless the original contract was subject to UF’s collective achieving sufficient funding (and I’d be surprised if it was), not having the money to pay isn’t a way out.

Once a contract is executed, one party can’t just tell the other, “Well, turns out we don’t have the money. So your contract’s null and void.”

If the contract with the UF collective was indeed subject to funding, the player and/or his representatives are dumb as rocks.

One possibility is that the player is suing for breach of a verbal contract. Which, absent hard evidence to back up his claim, is really hard to win.

I have no idea of the blackletter reading of the contract, or its provisions for termination, or even whether a written contract exists at all.

If I had to guess, I‘d say the plaintiff is hoping for a settlement. Which, if UF and its boosters don’t want any embarrassing dirty laundry to show up in discovery, could happen.

Not that I’m a lawyer but I was thinking the same thing: a bluff for a settlement out of court. The issue is the NCAA has declined punishment for NIL, so what wall do they think they have Florida pushed up against?

 

[Redwood Forrest]

My first thought was "Good, maybe they will all sue who have been lied to and bankrupt college football. Then they can see how much money they make sitting at home in the fall." That might not be a bad idea. They could bulldoze the ashes of this mutant horror show, formerly call NCAA, and start all over again.

 

[davefrat]

How long before players refuse to play/practice because of some dispute over their NIL money?

 

[KrAzY3]

Are pre-arranged contacts not illegal under NIL

Under existing NCAA rules, yes.

But under the NIL template based off of the California law? Absolutely not, there were no guardrails at all, just wording that explicitly forbid any sort of prohibitions.

It was as deliberate an opening of Pandora's Box as possible.

 

[AlexanderFan]

Under existing NCAA rules, yes.

But under the NIL template based off of the California law? Absolutely not, there were no guardrails at all, just wording that explicitly forbid any sort of prohibitions.

It was as deliberate an opening of Pandora's Box as possible.

Shirley, surely California wouldn’t be so stupid to do such.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

How long before players refuse to play/practice because of some dispute over their NIL money?

It's coming...

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Shirley, surely California wouldn’t be so stupid to do such.

Were there politicians involved....?

Does the Pope pee in the woods...?

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Like I figured, there wasn't a contract and that's why the greedy little dude and his father or whoever his agent is aren't getting a dime. Serves them right.

Found this article by Ronald Evans of BamaHammer:

College Football, NIL and Jaden Rashada's saga tarnishing careers

The latest episode of the Jaden Rashada's saga should surprise no one. Despite well-intentioned efforts at the start of the NIL era, it was destined for rampant

bamahammer.com

Evans is usually a bit partisan for my taste, but he raises an interesting possibility in the Rashada saga.

Evans’ sources tell him that Rashada and his handlers repeatedly tried to get a better deal.

IOW, they’d reach a verbal agreement with whatever collective, then come back wanting more. In my banking career we called that “trying to re-trade the deal.”

I have no information on what happened. But piecing together work experience and tidbits of published information, I can speculate:

Miami offers a deal. Florida offers more. Rashada accepts Florida’s offer. Lawyers get to work on papering what is to this point a verbal agreement.

Before putting pen to contract, Rashada’s camp comes back wanting a boost. Florida counters with a smaller boost. Rashad’s says he wants his number. After lots of back and forth, middle fingers flying everywhere, Florida finally throws up its hands and tells Rashada to pound sand.

Now, Rashada has no options that will pay him anywhere near what he’s already turned down from Florida. Florida is “d-u-n DONE “

So Rashada alleges breach of contract and sues, hoping Florida will pay him something to just go away.

Again, all that is speculation on my part. But it fits what’s being reported.

 

[Snuffy Smith]

Found this article by Ronald Evans of BamaHammer:

College Football, NIL and Jaden Rashada's saga tarnishing careers

The latest episode of the Jaden Rashada's saga should surprise no one. Despite well-intentioned efforts at the start of the NIL era, it was destined for rampant

bamahammer.com

Evans is usually a bit partisan for my taste, but he raises an interesting possibility in the Rashada saga.

Evans’ sources tell him that Rashada and his handlers repeatedly tried to get a better deal.

IOW, they’d reach a verbal agreement with whatever collective, then come back wanting more. In my banking career we called that “trying to re-trade the deal.”

I have no information on what happened. But piecing together work experience and tidbits of published information, I can speculate:

Miami offers a deal. Florida offers more. Rashada accepts Florida’s offer. Lawyers get to work on papering what is to this point a verbal agreement.

Before putting pen to contract, Rashada’s camp comes back wanting a boost. Florida counters with a smaller boost. Rashad’s says he wants his number. After lots of back and forth, middle fingers flying everywhere, Florida finally throws up its hands and tells Rashada to pound sand.

Now, Rashada has no options that will pay him anywhere near what he’s already turned down from Florida. Florida is “d-u-n DONE “

So Rashada alleges breach of contract and sues, hoping Florida will pay him something to just go away.

Again, all that is speculation on my part. But it fits what’s being reported.

It’s all about the timing in these cases - facts will end up coming out in court. If an offer is made and you counter that offer you have basically rendered the initial offer void.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

It’s all about the timing in these cases - facts will end up coming out in court. If an offer is made and you counter that offer you have basically rendered the initial offer void.

My point exactly.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

Like I figured, there wasn't a contract and that's why the greedy little dude and his father or whoever his agent is aren't getting a dime. Serves them right.

Just to be clear — I don’t know if there was ever a signed contract.

I was trying to create a scenario that reconciles all the stuff being reported and my experience in the banking world.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Just to be clear — I don’t know if there was ever a signed contract.

I was trying to create a scenario that reconciles all the stuff being reported and my experience in the banking world.

I came to that conclusion myself, and if there was one, it was so generic no one could be held liable for much of anything.

 

[AlistarWills]

How long before players refuse to play/practice because of some dispute over their NIL money?

Hasn’t this already happened? Seems I remember a story but I could be crazy.

I’m waiting to see what Josh Pate mentioned and a coach/school/collective sue a player over NIL. Frankly, this stuff needs to happen and happen sooner than later so the PtB can wake up and start building guardrails. But they can’t see their golden calf is about to be slaughtered.

 

[mrusso]

It's not a team sport. No loyalty on either side. Players are more concerned about highlight reels than winning. Taylor Swift. NFL is way too woke, etc, etc, etc.

Sounds similar to the college game now.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Sounds similar to the college game now.

I listened to an interview with former NFL player Kherry Rhodes and he said since the salary cap, the highest paid quarterback at the time has never won a Superbowl. He said to win in the NFL the quarterback has to decide to take less than what he could max out at, and distribute that savings to other positions to build a team to win the SB. But he said most players won't do that because they want to make as much as they can, although what they are currently making would set them up for life.

The college game will become that way with the current state of the NIL.