Question: Jury duty

NationalTitles18

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I've been called a few times. First time we were all sent home. Missed a couple due to receiving late notices. Got out of the last one near the beginning of the pandemic by asking if they thought I should be addressing that or serving on a jury. Haven't gotten a notice since then. (I did indicate I'd be willing, but felt my time would be better spent tending to folks who needed me)
 

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Been called a few times. I’m white, male, a late Baby Boomer, a graduate degree holder, and was a banker whose career concentrated in financial analysis / risk management. Mrs. Basket Case was an ERISA attorney, and in Bankruptcy court (federal jurisdiction only), I had professional contact with more than one employee of the Federal court system. No way any PI plaintiffs’ attorney allows me on a civil jury. I just read books until I was dismissed.

Several years ago, I was called for a federal criminal pool. On one case, I was pulled back from the group as a whole for additional voir dire. The prosecution (yes, the prosecution) asked me whether, given my demographic profile, I could be impartial. I replied that the answer depended on her definition of “impartial.”

I told her that as he stood there before me, the defendant was an innocent man, and I would hold the prosecution to a high standard to change that impression. Then, I turned to the defense team and told them not to take too much comfort….if the prosecution did in fact scale that standard, I would have no problem voting guilty.

Further, I told them that I viewed the charges to be exceedingly serious. Given that, if I were convinced of guilt, I would advocate for the maximum sentence to protect the general public.

So yes, I said, “According to the dictionary definition, I’m impartial. Which of you feels better about your case?”

After a pregnant silence, I was asked to re-join the general juror pool. About 30 seconds after that, I was told to go home.
 
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I’m a minister. As soon as the judge finds that out I’m never struck. Most interesting case was a civil trial where a death occurred in a vehicle accident. The man who died was at fault. Crossed the center line and ran under a house trailer that was being delivered. Decaptated him. The truck drivers sued the man’s widow, claiming injuries. They drove two miles on without even realizing someone ran under the mobile home. Noticed some siding which partially came off the trailer. That’s why they stopped. We have them nothing. Made $16 and heard an interesting story.

My wife got out of a federal jury for a murder case because she was 39 weeks pregnant. Walked in. Went straight to the judge. Said she was due in 5 days. Walked out. I admit I was jealous she got out of so quickly. She told them they couldnt recess every 10 minutes for her to go pee.
 
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I've been in a jury pool 3 or 4 times, selected once to serve in a civil trial. I recommend the experience, if you have never been there. It was quite an education in the judicial process. Sitting with the other pool members, listening (not eavesdropping, could not help but hear conversations) out in the hallway to attorneys speaking with their clients, being part of the courtroom trial, deliberating with my fellow jurors...

I did feel good that I had performed an important and necessary role in society and in the the pursuit of justice. If I ever found myself in court I would be putting myself (life and/or fortune) in the hands of people like me (and some NOT like me). I have to say that the jury room experience was easily the MOST disappointing part of the whole process.
 
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i seem to end up called for jury duty a lot. i have been to the courthouse several times, but i have only been picked to be on one jury, for a dui about 25 years ago in dekalb. it was a stupid case (i have no idea why it was challenged) with seemingly not very bright lawyers on either side, but it was very interesting to see the full process of a trial and it only lasted a day.

about 5 years ago, i was one of the first to get picked to go through voir dire for a double murder. i likely would have had to serve on the jury, but i had a work trip scheduled for hong kong the following week and the judge excused me.

every other time, i just go to the courthouse and hang out all morning in the main room then end up just getting dismissed and sent home.
 
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Grand Jury can be a long slog. I had a friend that was one day a week for almost 6 months on a Grand Jury.
Both times I was on the Grand Jury, we handled something like 45 cases and returned 45 true bills. The cops had done their due diligence and had the goods on the accused.
The really heinous ones were child pornography cases. In Virginia possession of one image results in a child porn case. The accused had hundreds of images, so the CA stopped charging at 25, in case he beat the rap, the Commonwealth could file 25 more charges until the hundreds were disposed of. Disgusting crime.
Most of them were stupid drunk or stoned people allowing cops to search their cars or homes, with meth inside. Not very smart.
One of my favorites (not involving kiddy porn or drugs), was a black man in a gold late model Mercedes who rear-ended a woman at a stop sign. He backed up, drove around, and left the scene. Cop shows up, takes her statement, she got a clear look at him (which was why "black man" was relevant), a good description of the car, and, here's the kicker, the guy had left his front license plate at the scene of the accident.
A quick call to DMV led to cops showing up at the guy's address, with a late-model gold Mercedes parked in front, missing it's front license plate, with a matching number on the rear plate.
Like I said, Hooverville needs a better class of criminal. The ones Hooverville now has are really dumb.
 

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I have only been called to jury duty once. Sat there on that Monday for a few hours and then they sent us home. Came back and did the same thing on Tuesday. Later Tuesday evening they called and dismissed me for the rest of the week.

I was threatened with contempt on the first day. When we broke for lunch they said to be back at 1. I was back in the waiting room by 12:55 but nobody was there. They had already taken everyone into the courtroom. Just before they allowed us to leave the courtroom the judge announces 3 names to stay behind and mine was one of them. He ask why I was late and I said I still had 5 minutes. He said he didn't want to hear it and that if I was late again he would hold me in contempt.

This may be our civic duty but that soured my taste for it. They took everyone back early and I get in trouble. Plus, I didn't ask to be there and he threatens me because he claims I was late. Screw this process. How about focus on the criminals and not those of us being inconvenienced by this entire process. That judge was just a punk on a power trip.
 
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I have only been called to jury duty once. Sat there on that Monday for a few hours and then they sent us home. Came back and did the same thing on Tuesday. Later Tuesday evening they called and dismissed me for the rest of the week.

I was threatened with contempt on the first day. When we broke for lunch they said to be back at 1. I was back in the waiting room by 12:55 but nobody was there. They had already taken everyone into the courtroom. Just before they allowed us to leave the courtroom the judge announces 3 names to stay behind and mine was one of them. He ask why I was late and I said I still had 5 minutes. He said he didn't want to hear it and that if I was late again he would hold me in contempt.

This may be our civic duty but that soured my taste for it. They took everyone back early and I get in trouble. Plus, I didn't ask to be there and he threatens me because he claims I was late. Screw this process. How about focus on the criminals and those of us being inconvenienced by this entire process. That judge was just a punk on a power trip.
I hate to break it to you but a lot of them are...
 

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I've been in a jury pool 3 or 4 times, selected once to serve in a civil trial. I recommend the experience, if you have never been there. It was quite an education in the judicial process. Sitting with the other pool members, listening (not eavesdropping, could not help but hear conversations) out in the hallway to attorneys speaking with their clients, being part of the courtroom trial, deliberating with my fellow jurors...

I did feel good that I had performed an important and necessary role in society and in the the pursuit of justice. If I ever found myself in court I would be putting myself (life and/or fortune) in the hands of people like me (and some NOT like me). I have to say that the jury room experience was easily the MOST disappointing part of the whole process.
Since I’ve been called several times, but never actually served on a jury, I’m curious….what was disappointing about the jury room?
 

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Since I’ve been called several times, but never actually served on a jury, I’m curious….what was disappointing about the jury room?
Most people I find who love jury duty just love the temporary power they have over someone else or have nothing better to do. Yeah you find your Hank Hill’s who truly feel patriotic about serving. While 90% of the jury is probably going to come to the logical conclusion you start to realize that you have some really difficult people who are either incapable of following instructions and/or the logic case or just want everyone to bow down to their power.

Seriously my case involved a guy admitting to killing a guy and robbing a guy on camera. Yet we had a woman question if a cop from Tennessee is allowed to arrest a guy fleeing from Munford and a guy who refused to vote until 2 hrs in the process because he felt anything under 2hrs showed pettiness and racial bias against the defendant.

It’s very overrated to be on a jury imo. I guess it might be different if you are on a capital punishment case or some major national case. But I have had my fill of County murder cases in “WTH am I, Alabama”
 

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"Jury of your peers" is downright frightening when you consider how dumb the average person is.
In the common usage, it means "equals." In the Magna Carta, it meant by fellow nobles, rather than by the king. Now the courts have more or less said by a broad segment of society - no guarantees of gender, race, etc...
 

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"Jury of your peers" is downright frightening when you consider how dumb the average person is.
I agree, but don’t think you took it far enough. It’s worse than that, because….

Especially on the civil side, the plaintiffs intentionally strike as many people as they can who would actually understand the facts and sort through them in a logical manner consistent with the law. If such a person makes it onto a civil jury, it’s either (1) a highly specialized case where both sides need a panel that has a grasp of what’s going on — unusual, but it does happen, or more likely, (2) the plaintiffs just ran out of strikes.

So by removing those folks, you reduce the logic and understanding of an already-shaky base even further.

It holds on the criminal side as well, just not quite to the same degree as the civil.
 

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