Mass/Active Shooters, Part **FIVE**

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Unless you have a lot of foot traffic ( I can't imagine you do) a simple electromagnetic lock would add a layer of safety.
We get a lot of deliveries from FedEx and UPS. Mostly samples of building products because we need actual samples that you can see and feel. We don't pick materials blindly.
 

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Another "known mental health issues" case. As long as people as mixed up as this individual can lay hands on firearms, there is literally no defense...
With known mental health, why did he have a gun permit? I understand it was not for carrying an assult style rifle, but still.
 

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With known mental health, why did he have a gun permit? I understand it was not for carrying an assult style rifle, but still.
The question on the 4473 is very narrow. It basically just asks if you've been adjudged incompetent or confined, which few are these days. This guy even had a private investigator license. To change it would take congressional action and the gun lobby manages to freeze any attempt at that, since it would mean fewer guns sold...
 

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With known mental health, why did he have a gun permit? I understand it was not for carrying an assult style rifle, but still.
As a black pastor friend of mine said - this is so you get the visual - in animated Jesse Jackson mode:

"They SANE the day they fill out th' paperwork!"
 
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Four people are dead after a shooting at a bar in Anaconda, Montana, Friday morning, the Montana Division of Criminal Investigation said in a news release.

The shooting took place at 10:30 a.m. local time at The Owl Bar, and the scene is secure, the agency said. Additional details about what led up to the shooting were not immediately available.

Anaconda-Deer Lodge County Law Enforcement Center said in a Facebook post they are searching for suspect Michael Paul Brown, who is believed to be armed and dangerous. The agency advised the public to stay out of the area and to not approach him.
CNN: Four people dead in Montana bar shooting, suspect at large
 
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I hope they release the details on this. Inertia is rampant in the armed forces, as with any big organization. The crazy psychiatrist at Fort Hood gave out all sorts of warning signals before his atrocity. I wonder what this event will show...
 

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I sometimes wonder what it's like to live in a country where gun violence isn't the norm, and a gun lobby doesn't dictate the votes of over half of our government's representatives.
 
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I hope they release the details on this. Inertia is rampant in the armed forces, as with any big organization. The crazy psychiatrist at Fort Hood gave out all sorts of warning signals before his atrocity. I wonder what this event will show...
I had read that this sergeant (E-5) was originally from Jacksonville, Fla.
His father mentioned his son had mentioned problems with racism and had requested a transfer..
Not sure what that meant. It is a common complaint whenever any adverse personnel action occurs. Maybe his supervisor gave him an adverse counseling statement for being later to formation one day. That could have been interpreted as “racism.” Or he could have really experienced a racially-motivated attack of some kind. Who knows?
I also read that this guy had recently gotten a DUI in Liberty County, and maybe that was the “racism” he encountered. Oddly, his chain of command was unaware of the DUI, which is really weird, since the post Provost Marshal gets a daily blotter report from local police authorities (Ft. Bragg does with Fayetteville City and Cumberland County police). I do not know how the system failed here.
What I find a bit disingenuous in the stories is that the MPs don’t know how the gun got on the base. That’s just silly because the MPs check IDs of every car coming on the base they do not search cars coming on the base. It would take hours to get daily commuters onto the base if they did.
Normally the Provost Marshal has a registration for the gun of soldiers living on the base but even that is on the initiative of the soldier to comply with.
 

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There was a shooter at Emory earlier today. The shooter was killed; a police officer was seriously wounded--one site said that the officer doed, but I haven't seen it anywhere else. Authorities think the shooter was looking to attack the CDC.


That this latest shooting went by almost unnoticed here says something about the degree to which we have becom inured to gun violence.
 

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There was a shooter at Emory earlier today. The shooter was killed; a police officer was seriously wounded--one site said that the officer doed, but I haven't seen it anywhere else. Authorities think the shooter was looking to attack the CDC.


That this latest shooting went by almost unnoticed here says something about the degree to which we have becom inured to gun violence.
I think we've adopted the FBI standard - at least 4 victims... :(
 

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I sometimes wonder what it's like to live in a country where gun violence isn't the norm, and a gun lobby doesn't dictate the votes of over half of our government's representatives.
I continue to ask this question - but have yet to have received an answer.

If guns are "the problem"......what would keep anyone here's child from shooting someone?

The answer to that question is what, IMHO, should be the discussion.

In the meantime the oxygen in the room gets depleted when everyone is saying "GUNS!"
 

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they have confirmed that an officer died in the emory shooting and they identified the shooter


'Just looking at him, you knew he was special,' DeKalb CEO says of officer David Rose
DeKalb County police officer David Rose was a standout member of his police academy class who knew the Emory University community well because his mother worked at the hospital, the county’s chief executive said in an interview Saturday.
“His mother was an ICU nurse at Emory University for 17 years,” said DeKalb CEO Lorraine Cochran-Johnson, who spoke with Rose’s wife and mother at Emory University Hospital after Rose was shot and taken there on Friday.
“This young man, as a kid, literally grew up in the Emory community — walking the halls of the hospital," Cochran-Johnson said, adding that his mother is convinced that he responded to the call because he knew the area so well.
“That young man has been answering the call all of his life,” Cochran-Johnson said, adding, “His mom continually said he was always the first to help, that he’s just been such a good kid all of his life.”
Cochran-Johnson added that Rose graduated from the police academy in March and she remembers him vividly.
“He was a part of the first class that I addressed as CEO,” said Cochran-Johnson, who took office in January. “Just looking at him, you knew he was special.”
 
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I continue to ask this question - but have yet to have received an answer.
I suspect you have gotten a lot of answers; you just didn't like them. To wit:

If guns are "the problem"......what would keep anyone here's child from shooting someone?
Not having guns.

Or, if you have guns, keeping them properly secured.
 
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I suspect you hvae gotten a lot of answers; you just didn't like them. To wit:

Not having guns.

Or, if you have guns, keeping them properly secured.
No jthomas - has never been answered.

So your answer is not owning a firearm yourself......or ever allowing your children to own a firearm?

Even if this is your choice.......how in the world do you keep guns away from your children once they leave home?
 
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