News Article: New Title IX Guidelines could alter revenue sharing plans

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The easy answer - end women's sports. It will happen now. Has to. They will become club sports.

Or, better yet, end the direct connection between all sports and their universities.
This will most probably be the long term effect. NIL (Pay for Play) will eventually kill the non revenue sports (women’s sports mostly).

This will be followed by much pearl clutching concerning equal opportunity for women to the point where universities will need to make a choice. A semi professional sports product (run by an entity not associated with the university-ie: semi pro) wearing the university brand. Essentially the team is “advertising” for the university. Or wash their hands of it completely because it does fit the academic mission of the institution. No longer can the school say it is offering academic opportunities for kids via athletic scholarships because there is no tie other than a line item in the marketing budget.
 
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The easy answer - end women's sports. It will happen now. Has to. They will become club sports.

Or, better yet, end the direct connection between all sports and their universities.
Come to think of it, if the collectives are separate from the schools...how will this be enforced? :unsure:
 
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The repeal of the Chevron Doctrine will likely render this interpretation moot next week.

If there is a divorce of collegiate sports from universities, it will eliminate the opportunity of further education for all but the elite athletes. The brand attachment to UofA and it's history will quickly wither away. The networks will then find themselves broadcasting the equivalent of USFL games.

All of this is destroying college athletics for all parties involved - players, coaches, schools, conferences, networks, bondholders, NFL, etc.

A solution to all this chaos needs to be developed fast.
 

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This could certainly create quite a mess.
I mean. Not to get into politics. But this DOE is leaving in 3 days. They don’t get to dictate what happens the next 4 years. Pretty sure the next one can change it, so I’d be more interested in the incoming admin policy.
 
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If I am understanding it correctly the percentage will be based on the number of athletes and sports by proportion. So they will either have to split it evenly if they have the same number of sports and athletes or they will have to decrease the number of sports and athletes. Meaning the small women’s and men’s sports will get eliminated from many schools.
 

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If I am understanding it correctly the percentage will be based on the number of athletes and sports by proportion. So they will either have to split it evenly if they have the same number of sports and athletes or they will have to decrease the number of sports and athletes. Meaning the small women’s and men’s sports will get eliminated from many schools.
Therein lies the problem with all this, even in football. Lots of people will lose opportunities they would normally have, all because everyone thinks they deserve a piece of the pie. We are seeing this in football with the elimination of walk ons, which will only affect non-preferred wall ons, but still, that was one of the great things about college football, seeing someone who nobody wanted, try out for the team, and eventually win the starting job. Now, the preferred walk ons will become scholarship players, and the ones who have to try out, won't have any avenue to the team. And then if they cut some of the other sports, just so the players of those teams can be paid, then you have officially ruined everything. There are still plenty of athletes that would still do it for free, because they love their sport, just like they always did. We're ruining everything just to appease 5-10% of athletes.

Somehow they think it's better for less opportunities if everyone gets paid, but is that really the case? It's most certainly not going to be life-changing money they're getting under revenue sharing, so there's no way it's worth it. I imagine they'll probably get something like 25 grand, if that. It's certainly not enough money to justify taking opportunities from people.
 
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Yeah that’s the most troubling part of this - the DOE & the courts seem to be fighting for control of major college athletics.
Neither of them should have the power to do so, but they both seem to want to flex their powers as if they are unlimited. I should add that I am not an attorney, but the total lack of common sense dealing with anything in the courts or politics is maddening.
 
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The repeal of the Chevron Doctrine will likely render this interpretation moot next week.

If there is a divorce of collegiate sports from universities, it will eliminate the opportunity of further education for all but the elite athletes. The brand attachment to UofA and it's history will quickly wither away. The networks will then find themselves broadcasting the equivalent of USFL games.

All of this is destroying college athletics for all parties involved - players, coaches, schools, conferences, networks, bondholders, NFL, etc.

A solution to all this chaos needs to be developed fast.
This is what is referred to as killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.
 

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I mean. Not to get into politics. But this DOE is leaving in 3 days. They don’t get to dictate what happens the next 4 years. Pretty sure the next one can change it, so I’d be more interested in the incoming admin policy.
But it can’t forever be at the whim of changes in political leadership every 4-8 years, that’s untenable.

Just break football (and probably basketball) away from the amateur collegiate farce and make it professional.

There has to be a business decision, forget about scholarships and “student athletes” in football.

Shadeur and Shilo Sanders literally never attended a class in person at CU according to their head coach.

I imagine it’s much the same at many schools, where the players do all their classes online and pass as long as they log in.

It’s a joke.
 

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But it can’t forever be at the whim of changes in political leadership every 4-8 years, that’s untenable.

Just break football (and probably basketball) away from the amateur collegiate farce and make it professional.

There has to be a business decision, forget about scholarships and “student athletes” in football.

Shadeur and Shilo Sanders literally never attended a class in person at CU according to their head coach.

I imagine it’s much the same at many schools, where the players do all their classes online and pass as long as they log in.

It’s a joke.
I am talking specifically about Title IX. All I am saying (here) is that one admin’s policy by fiat, on the last Friday afternoon before they get kicked out, isn’t necessarily ever actually going to become policy. And because it is a policy by fiat, and not actually a law, it can always be changed by fiat. Just how it is.

I agree that federal policy on college athletics should t change every 4-8 years, but neither do I agree that it is sound policy to suddenly bind college football in perpetuity to the imo absurd notion that collegiate revenue sharing requires athletes in men’s and women’s sports to be paid exactly the same.

One thing is for sure- the current path that college football is on is ripping the sport apart and it cannot continue this way, one way or the other.
 
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