BREAKING New travel restrictions go into effect as deadly Ebola outbreak continues

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I'm starting to get the same uneasy feeling as I did just over 6 years ago when China locked down Wuhan.

Only this time it's Ebola in Africa.

All flights to the United States carrying passengers who recently traveled from the Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda or South Sudan have to arrive at one of three airports.
 
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I'm starting to get the same uneasy feeling as I did just over 6 years ago when China locked down Wuhan.

Only this time it's Ebola in Africa.

All flights to the United States carrying passengers who recently traveled from the Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda or South Sudan have to arrive at one of three airports.
So Outbreak is becoming a reality soon or are we back to The Stand?
 
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Fortunately, Ebola is much easier to contain. It is spread by contact and bodily fluids and lacks a natural reservoir in the US.

Of course, it and its cousin the Marburg virus have reported mortality rates of 25-90% over various outbreaks, which has a clarifying effect on how you approach it!
 
Fortunately, Ebola is much easier to contain. It is spread by contact and bodily fluids and lacks a natural reservoir in the US.

Of course, it and its cousin the Marburg virus have reported mortality rates of 25-90% over various outbreaks, which has a clarifying effect on how you approach it!
Unfortunately, the burial rituals, which are religiously-based, of many central African tribes include extensive washing and anointing of the body, to prepare it for entrance into the next world. In the extensive outbreak several years ago, the next of kin were still performing the rituals secretly, facilitating the spread. A couple of days ago, I saw a body being evacuated from a village and the corpse and the stretcher bearers were all garbed in hazmat gear. That will go a long way towards limiting its spread...
 
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Unfortunately, the burial rituals, which are religiously-based, of many central African tribes include extensive washing and anointing of the body, to prepare it for entrance into the next world. In the extensive outbreak several years ago, the next of kin were still performing the rituals secretly, facilitating the spread. A couple of days ago, I saw a body being evacuated from a village and the corpse and the stretcher bearers were all garbed in hazmat gear. That will go a long way towards limiting its spread...

Indeed... It can be hard to gain acceptance that the long held rituals need to be suspended.


An interesting if somewhat gruesome disease that is probably all but wiped out.
 
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Indeed... It can be hard to gain acceptance that the long held rituals need to be suspended.


An interesting if somewhat gruesome disease that is probably all but wiped out.
A number of years ago, I had a client pass from Creutzfeld-Jakob "C-J" disease (first cousin to "mad cow"). I called **** ****, her doctor, from her house, using her phone. While I was talking to him, he said "Earle, you do realize what she has is contagious? I held the phone out as if it were a poisonous snake. He continued that it wasn't very contagious, fortunately. (He had stuck himself while doing a spinal tap on her and didn't get it.)

Now for the weird twist - this client had had her husband pass a few years before of an almost equally rare disease - scleroderma. He had fought in WWI and was wounded in Verdun. An extremely high percentage of soldiers wounded there ended up with that rare disease. My client's husband had been a weapon collector. In fact, he'd built a 1K square foot room on the back on their house, just to hold the guns. I think about that collection from time to time. It would be worth in the millions today. The two of them had another couple as best friends, in part because the husband of that couple was also a gun collector. They were inseparable; spent most weekends together traveling to gun shows, etc. That husband also died of C-J disease. IDK how close the couple was, but they were really close. Now, weirder - The wife of the other couple did not contract C-J, but she was my BIL's administrative assistant when he was the associate director at Marshall, before he became director down at Kennedy. I contacted her and we both contacted the CDC. The doctor, a neurologist, had told me he would also report it. You can probably guess what happened - nada. The CDC passed up a sterling opportunity to study a chain of transmission for a disease which is exceedingly hard to study...
 
A number of years ago, I had a client pass from Creutzfeld-Jakob "C-J" disease (first cousin to "mad cow"). I called **** ****, her doctor, from her house, using her phone. While I was talking to him, he said "Earle, you do realize what she has is contagious? I held the phone out as if it were a poisonous snake. He continued that it wasn't very contagious, fortunately. (He had stuck himself while doing a spinal tap on her and didn't get it.)

Now for the weird twist - this client had had her husband pass a few years before of an almost equally rare disease - scleroderma. He had fought in WWI and was wounded in Verdun. An extremely high percentage of soldiers wounded there ended up with that rare disease. My client's husband had been a weapon collector. In fact, he'd built a 1K square foot room on the back on their house, just to hold the guns. I think about that collection from time to time. It would be worth in the millions today. The two of them had another couple as best friends, in part because the husband of that couple was also a gun collector. They were inseparable; spent most weekends together traveling to gun shows, etc. That husband also died of C-J disease. IDK how close the couple was, but they were really close. Now, weirder - The wife of the other couple did not contract C-J, but she was my BIL's administrative assistant when he was the associate director at Marshall, before he became director down at Kennedy. I contacted her and we both contacted the CDC. The doctor, a neurologist, had told me he would also report it. You can probably guess what happened - nada. The CDC passed up a sterling opportunity to study a chain of transmission for a disease which is exceedingly hard to study...

You need to write a book! I haven't seen a case of CJD since training... We are extremely cautious about it. However, the current evidence suggests it is not transmissible through most casual contact. You'd have to be exposed to contaminated brain tissue for the most part. But, uhh, remind me not to shake your hand if we ever meet in person!

As for the scleroderma... Horrible stuff... I tried out our medical AI Open Evidence on it... Lots of interesting exposures there which can trigger scleroderma!


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This is a fascinating historical question. A veteran of the Battle of Verdun (1916) would have been exposed to several chemicals with potential relevance to scleroderma, though direct evidence linking WWI battlefield exposures specifically to systemic sclerosis is limited.

Relevant Chemical Exposures at Verdun

The Battle of Verdun (February–December 1916) was one of the most intense engagements of WWI. Soldiers there faced multiple hazardous exposures:

  • Phosgene (COCl₂) — The predominant chemical warfare agent used at Verdun in 1916. Phosgene was a choking agent causing severe pulmonary injury and was responsible for the majority of chemical warfare deaths in WWI. [1-2]
  • Chlorine gas — Used earlier in the war (first deployed at Ypres in 1915) and continued in various combinations. Chlorine is a potent respiratory irritant. [1][3]
  • Sulfur mustard — First deployed by Germany in July 1917 at Ypres (after the main Verdun battle), so exposure at Verdun itself is less likely unless the veteran served later in the war as well. Sulfur mustard is an alkylating agent that causes chronic skin, pulmonary, and ocular injury, and notably can produce a sclerodermoid histopathologic pattern in skin biopsies. Long-term survivors of sulfur mustard exposure show significantly elevated autoimmune markers (ANA, anti-dsDNA, RF), suggesting a possible autoimmune-triggering effect, though a large retrospective cohort study of Iranian veterans did not find a significantly increased risk of morphea, DLE, or SLE. [4-6]
  • Arsenic — Arsenical shells were extensively used at Verdun, and post-war destruction of 1.5 million chemical shells near Verdun resulted in severe arsenic and heavy metal soil contamination (arsenic concentrations up to 175,907 mg/kg). Arsenic causes immune dysregulation and has been associated with carcinogenesis, though it is not among the heavy metals most strongly linked to SSc (antimony, cadmium, lead, and mercury have the strongest associations). [7-11]
  • Heavy metals (lead, zinc, cadmium, copper) — Extremely high concentrations of lead (up to 26,398 mg/kg) and zinc (up to 133,237 mg/kg) were documented in Verdun battlefield soils from munitions residue. Lead and cadmium are among the heavy metals significantly associated with SSc in case-control studies. [7][9-10]
  • Silica dust — Trench warfare involved prolonged exposure to soil dust from constant shelling and excavation. Crystalline silica, the strongest known environmental risk factor for SSc, could plausibly have been inhaled during the massive artillery bombardments at Verdun. [12-13]
Synthesis and Plausibility

While there is no direct epidemiological study linking WWI combat exposure to scleroderma, a Verdun veteran would have had biologically plausible exposures to multiple agents associated with SSc risk: silica dust from trench warfare and artillery bombardment, heavy metals (particularly lead and cadmium) from munitions, and potentially organic chemical agents. Sulfur mustard, if encountered later in the war, can induce a sclerodermoid skin pattern and trigger autoimmune markers, though it has not been definitively linked to true SSc. [4-5] The combination of these exposures in a genetically susceptible individual could theoretically contribute to SSc development, consistent with the multifactorial model of SSc pathogenesis. [14-15]

It is worth noting that occupational exposure assessment in SSc patients should be systematic, as many exposures go unrecognized without structured evaluation. [9]
 
You need to write a book! I haven't seen a case of CJD since training... We are extremely cautious about it. However, the current evidence suggests it is not transmissible through most casual contact. You'd have to be exposed to contaminated brain tissue for the most part. But, uhh, remind me not to shake your hand if we ever meet in person!

As for the scleroderma... Horrible stuff... I tried out our medical AI Open Evidence on it... Lots of interesting exposures there which can trigger scleroderma!


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This is a fascinating historical question. A veteran of the Battle of Verdun (1916) would have been exposed to several chemicals with potential relevance to scleroderma, though direct evidence linking WWI battlefield exposures specifically to systemic sclerosis is limited.

Relevant Chemical Exposures at Verdun

The Battle of Verdun (February–December 1916) was one of the most intense engagements of WWI. Soldiers there faced multiple hazardous exposures:

  • Phosgene (COCl₂) — The predominant chemical warfare agent used at Verdun in 1916. Phosgene was a choking agent causing severe pulmonary injury and was responsible for the majority of chemical warfare deaths in WWI. [1-2]
  • Chlorine gas — Used earlier in the war (first deployed at Ypres in 1915) and continued in various combinations. Chlorine is a potent respiratory irritant. [1][3]
  • Sulfur mustard — First deployed by Germany in July 1917 at Ypres (after the main Verdun battle), so exposure at Verdun itself is less likely unless the veteran served later in the war as well. Sulfur mustard is an alkylating agent that causes chronic skin, pulmonary, and ocular injury, and notably can produce a sclerodermoid histopathologic pattern in skin biopsies. Long-term survivors of sulfur mustard exposure show significantly elevated autoimmune markers (ANA, anti-dsDNA, RF), suggesting a possible autoimmune-triggering effect, though a large retrospective cohort study of Iranian veterans did not find a significantly increased risk of morphea, DLE, or SLE. [4-6]
  • Arsenic — Arsenical shells were extensively used at Verdun, and post-war destruction of 1.5 million chemical shells near Verdun resulted in severe arsenic and heavy metal soil contamination (arsenic concentrations up to 175,907 mg/kg). Arsenic causes immune dysregulation and has been associated with carcinogenesis, though it is not among the heavy metals most strongly linked to SSc (antimony, cadmium, lead, and mercury have the strongest associations). [7-11]
  • Heavy metals (lead, zinc, cadmium, copper) — Extremely high concentrations of lead (up to 26,398 mg/kg) and zinc (up to 133,237 mg/kg) were documented in Verdun battlefield soils from munitions residue. Lead and cadmium are among the heavy metals significantly associated with SSc in case-control studies. [7][9-10]
  • Silica dust — Trench warfare involved prolonged exposure to soil dust from constant shelling and excavation. Crystalline silica, the strongest known environmental risk factor for SSc, could plausibly have been inhaled during the massive artillery bombardments at Verdun. [12-13]
Synthesis and Plausibility

While there is no direct epidemiological study linking WWI combat exposure to scleroderma, a Verdun veteran would have had biologically plausible exposures to multiple agents associated with SSc risk: silica dust from trench warfare and artillery bombardment, heavy metals (particularly lead and cadmium) from munitions, and potentially organic chemical agents. Sulfur mustard, if encountered later in the war, can induce a sclerodermoid skin pattern and trigger autoimmune markers, though it has not been definitively linked to true SSc. [4-5] The combination of these exposures in a genetically susceptible individual could theoretically contribute to SSc development, consistent with the multifactorial model of SSc pathogenesis. [14-15]

It is worth noting that occupational exposure assessment in SSc patients should be systematic, as many exposures go unrecognized without structured evaluation. [9]
Either of that couples final diseases is anything you'd wish for. In her case, she would try to keep the books on her business and would end up scrawling "Must call Earle," except it would start in the middle of the page and describe a descending semicircle towards the bottom of the page. Heartbreaking. So far as shaking my hand, I'm almost a compulsive hand-washer, although soap and water won't kill the prions. However, with them, over the years, there's bound to have been a lot of inadvertent exchange of bodily fluid, just cooking together, etc. Also, two of them didn't contract it. (Don't go there with your thoughts. It's highly unlikely.) In my case it's had over 50 years to develop. It's slow, but not that slow... :)
 
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