NIL For Dummies

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Ok I've been loving college football for decades, went to college and know how to read and all of that, and see and hear everyday about NIL in college athletics, and bits and pieces of this that and the other, including these values someone has come up with and now the Colorado QB has bought a Rolls Royce. But can someone please make it easy for people like me to understand?
1. Where does the money come from?
2. How is it given to the players?
3. Who/what determines how much they get?
4. Is is guaranteed? In other words what happens if they break their leg?
5. If a player leaves one school for another, does he loose the deal and have to start over?
6. Can a school (or whoever it is paying) offer a player more money to come play for them?
7. Is their "salary" renegotiated each season?
Thanks very much and please keep it simple. Just typing these questions makes me worry about the future of the greatest sport ever.
 
Ok I've been loving college football for decades, went to college and know how to read and all of that, and see and hear everyday about NIL in college athletics, and bits and pieces of this that and the other, including these values someone has come up with and now the Colorado QB has bought a Rolls Royce. But can someone please make it easy for people like me to understand?
1. Where does the money come from?
2. How is it given to the players?
3. Who/what determines how much they get?
4. Is is guaranteed? In other words what happens if they break their leg?
5. If a player leaves one school for another, does he loose the deal and have to start over?
6. Can a school (or whoever it is paying) offer a player more money to come play for them?
7. Is their "salary" renegotiated each season?
Thanks very much and please keep it simple. Just typing these questions makes me worry about the future of the greatest sport ever.

Take this with a grain of salt because I'm not a lawyer or expert, and what rules there are are unenforceable:

1. Anyone that wants to give. Some universities are attempting to route it through collectives, but from my understanding if you were a millionaire that wanted a particular player, you could hire him to post nice things about you and pay him whatever you wanted. Pretty sure I heard a NIL commercial at my kids HS game last Friday for a player and a local restaurant.
2. I don't think its complex, just a check.
3. Between the player and payer. Collectives are probably more controlled, outside that, the parties agree.
4. Short answer, it is like any business deal, if there is a contract, you are legally obligated to the enforcement you can command. If you don't get that, they can, and have, reneged. Once the player has the money, it is not supposed to be tied to play, meaning if he's hurt, they can't ask for it back.
5. Depends on the deal and contract I'm sure. Officially, they aren't supposed to be tied to recruiting and therefor not to the school, but if Dreamland hires you as a spokesperson, and you transfer to Texas, I doubt you get paid next time around.
6. The school isn't supposed to pay them beyond the stipend. Collectives are independent of schools. Also see #5, and the comment about rules being unenforceable.
7. Not a salary for play, its subject to renegotiation based on whatever the agreement was.

You've hit the nail on the head on why this is a problem. Prove you paid me to come here vs because I am here. There has already been a case where a player signed away a percentage of NFL earnings for money right now, and the agreement is ridiculous. (and they reneged on his money as well)

No rule to take money one year from here, and then money from someone else next year.

That being said, I think its going to settle down. People are realizing that a purchasing a recruiting class does not equal wins (TAM). The money isn't infinite. Cord cutting is about to crash the TV money market. So the available dollars are going to be less across the board. Eventually, transfers are going to realize that more often than not, it doesn't work out.

I don't know how long it will take, maybe 5-10 years or more, but things will reach a new normal. I don't know that we'll like what it is, but I don't think the sport will die.
 
That being said, I think its going to settle down. People are realizing that a purchasing a recruiting class does not equal wins (TAM). The money isn't infinite. Cord cutting is about to crash the TV money market. So the available dollars are going to be less across the board.

There is NO cord cutting if you want to watch CFB...🙄
The days of watching on free over the air are gone forever. The money is there (ask anyone with Spectrum recently for example) because OUR costs are increasing.😖
 
Take this with a grain of salt because I'm not a lawyer or expert, and what rules there are are unenforceable:

1. Anyone that wants to give. Some universities are attempting to route it through collectives, but from my understanding if you were a millionaire that wanted a particular player, you could hire him to post nice things about you and pay him whatever you wanted. Pretty sure I heard a NIL commercial at my kids HS game last Friday for a player and a local restaurant.
2. I don't think its complex, just a check.
3. Between the player and payer. Collectives are probably more controlled, outside that, the parties agree.
4. Short answer, it is like any business deal, if there is a contract, you are legally obligated to the enforcement you can command. If you don't get that, they can, and have, reneged. Once the player has the money, it is not supposed to be tied to play, meaning if he's hurt, they can't ask for it back.
5. Depends on the deal and contract I'm sure. Officially, they aren't supposed to be tied to recruiting and therefor not to the school, but if Dreamland hires you as a spokesperson, and you transfer to Texas, I doubt you get paid next time around.
6. The school isn't supposed to pay them beyond the stipend. Collectives are independent of schools. Also see #5, and the comment about rules being unenforceable.
7. Not a salary for play, its subject to renegotiation based on whatever the agreement was.

You've hit the nail on the head on why this is a problem. Prove you paid me to come here vs because I am here. There has already been a case where a player signed away a percentage of NFL earnings for money right now, and the agreement is ridiculous. (and they reneged on his money as well)

No rule to take money one year from here, and then money from someone else next year.

That being said, I think its going to settle down. People are realizing that a purchasing a recruiting class does not equal wins (TAM). The money isn't infinite. Cord cutting is about to crash the TV money market. So the available dollars are going to be less across the board. Eventually, transfers are going to realize that more often than not, it doesn't work out.

I don't know how long it will take, maybe 5-10 years or more, but things will reach a new normal. I don't know that we'll like what it is, but I don't think the sport will die.
It’s already dead, compared to what it was 20 years ago. The game won’t die - they’ll always play football. But college teams will never go back to what they were, and the more money that gets thrown into the mix the faster it will change to something exactly like farm clubs for the NFL.
And I vehemently disagree - the money will never dry up, unless you know some magic formula for eradicating greed. In our capitalist society, ain’t happening without another civil war. For the uber wealthy, there.is.never.enough.
 
Take this with a grain of salt because I'm not a lawyer or expert, and what rules there are are unenforceable:

1. Anyone that wants to give. Some universities are attempting to route it through collectives, but from my understanding if you were a millionaire that wanted a particular player, you could hire him to post nice things about you and pay him whatever you wanted. Pretty sure I heard a NIL commercial at my kids HS game last Friday for a player and a local restaurant.
2. I don't think its complex, just a check.
3. Between the player and payer. Collectives are probably more controlled, outside that, the parties agree.
4. Short answer, it is like any business deal, if there is a contract, you are legally obligated to the enforcement you can command. If you don't get that, they can, and have, reneged. Once the player has the money, it is not supposed to be tied to play, meaning if he's hurt, they can't ask for it back.
5. Depends on the deal and contract I'm sure. Officially, they aren't supposed to be tied to recruiting and therefor not to the school, but if Dreamland hires you as a spokesperson, and you transfer to Texas, I doubt you get paid next time around.
6. The school isn't supposed to pay them beyond the stipend. Collectives are independent of schools. Also see #5, and the comment about rules being unenforceable.
7. Not a salary for play, its subject to renegotiation based on whatever the agreement was.

You've hit the nail on the head on why this is a problem. Prove you paid me to come here vs because I am here. There has already been a case where a player signed away a percentage of NFL earnings for money right now, and the agreement is ridiculous. (and they reneged on his money as well)

No rule to take money one year from here, and then money from someone else next year.

That being said, I think its going to settle down. People are realizing that a purchasing a recruiting class does not equal wins (TAM). The money isn't infinite. Cord cutting is about to crash the TV money market. So the available dollars are going to be less across the board. Eventually, transfers are going to realize that more often than not, it doesn't work out.

I don't know how long it will take, maybe 5-10 years or more, but things will reach a new normal. I don't know that we'll like what it is, but I don't think the sport will die.
That's a pretty good generalization. Thanks for the post.
 
The only way I see NIL‘s future is where all colleges/conferences agree to some sort of regulation. Who regulates it I don’t know but something will need to be done instead of this Wild West we have now. It’s going to take a ginormous effort and it is probably years away but eventually a regulation or cap or fixed amount that’s accountable will happen. It’s the only way to make sense of it.
 
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The only way I see NIL‘s future is where all colleges/conferences agree to some sort of regulation. Who regulates it I don’t know but something will need to be done instead of this Wild West we have now. It’s going to take a ginormous effort and it is probably years away but eventually a regulation or cap or fixed amount that’s accountable will happen. It’s the only way to make sense of it.

Even the NFL has a salary cap, rules on free agency and rules against tampering. But as long as there are boosters with wallets bigger than the gray matter in their skulls and they consider intercollegiate athletics their “personal sandbox”, the money will be there.
 
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And you just got to love the notion that “NIL can not be tied to a requirement to attend any particular university or have playing time/performance incentives”….

We know that would never happen, right?
 
It takes a GIANT booster(s) to give enough to really influence these top players. It almost takes billionaire type money to give millions ( or hundreds of thousands) to high school recruits.
Rumour is that the Yellow Fellow is a motivated, able and willing donor for AU right now. ( Thus the flips)
 
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It takes a GIANT booster(s) to give enough to really influence these top players. It almost takes billionaire type money to give millions ( or hundreds of thousands) to high school recruits.
Rumour is that the Yellow Fellow is a motivated, able and willing donor for AU right now. ( Thus the flips)

1.2 billion in estimated net worth. People often say “these are business people. They didn’t get wealthy from being stupid”.
For folks like Yellow Fellow, the guy down in Miami and many of those boosters out in Texas, buying players with NIL is worth the “ego massage” they get from “knowing they did”.
 
It takes a GIANT booster(s) to give enough to really influence these top players. It almost takes billionaire type money to give millions ( or hundreds of thousands) to high school recruits.
Rumour is that the Yellow Fellow is a motivated, able and willing donor for AU right now. ( Thus the flips)
Few things make me as happy as seeing tamu struggle with all that money on the table. An absolute chefs kiss haha
 

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