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BamaMoon

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I know it's not popular with CNO, but I kinda wish he'd make one consideration for landing a big, bulky 4 or 5 as post-up option. It's not what we've seen in Oat's system here, but it follows the philosophy of "shots near the rim."

The post-up big is a dying breed in today's game it seems, but there are a few games each year when that guy could be invaluable.
 
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I know it's not popular with CNO, but I kinda wish he'd make one consideration for landing a big, bulky 4 or 5 as post-up option. It's not what we've seen in Oat's system here, but it follows the philosophy of "shots near the rim."

The post-up big is a dying breed in today's game it seems, but there are a few games each year when that guy could be invaluable.
We've actually had/have that with Bediako, Gurley, Rojas, KAH, and Gary. This issue has been they haven't been able to get in a rhythm in most games to be effective. Gary probably had the most successful outing in a post-up game thus far.

Gurley was brought in because of his effectiveness in low post play BUT it works best for him when the offense goes through him to allow him to establish a rhythm. He would get touches, but never seemed to be in a rhythm because he wasn't the main option on offense.

Hoping we are able to establish better frontcourt offensive production with next years team.
 

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We've actually had/have that with Bediako, Gurley, Rojas, KAH, and Gary. This issue has been they haven't been able to get in a rhythm in most games to be effective. Gary probably had the most successful outing in a post-up game thus far.

Gurley was brought in because of his effectiveness in low post play BUT it works best for him when the offense goes through him to allow him to establish a rhythm. He would get touches, but never seemed to be in a rhythm because he wasn't the main option on offense.

Hoping we are able to establish better frontcourt offensive production with next years team.
Right, but I'm talking more about a transfer that has proven ability on the low post. Out of the guys we've had on the roster that you list, only Beds has had any success showing he might could post up and score. Problem there is he's not strong enough to truly be effective (which I hope another season in the weight room helps cure).

I'm not even talking about working a post up guy into the main offense, because it really doesn't fit our rhythm/style, but more of a "specialist" for precise times like after a time out/late in the game (especially those games when our 3 point shooting has suffered).
 

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Right, but I'm talking more about a transfer that has proven ability on the low post. Out of the guys we've had on the roster that you list, only Beds has had any success showing he might could post up and score. Problem there is he's not strong enough to truly be effective (which I hope another season in the weight room helps cure).

I'm not even talking about working a post up guy into the main offense, because it really doesn't fit our rhythm/style, but more of a "specialist" for precise times like after a time out/late in the game (especially those games when our 3 point shooting has suffered).
Its still Gurley, we haven't seem his full game take effect but he has a solid low post presence, can run the floor and create his own shot. I honestly think if he's considered more of a scoring option from the start of the game, the more we will see what he brings to the table take effect. Hopefully Bediako takes on more of the bully ball mentality in the low post

 

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Its still Gurley, we haven't seem his full game take effect but he has a solid low post presence, can run the floor and create his own shot. I honestly think if he's considered more of a scoring option from the start of the game, the more we will see what he brings to the table take effect. Hopefully Bediako takes on more of the bully ball mentality in the low post

When I read Gurley my mind was thinking "Gary," but you're correct and I overlooked Gurley. He actually probably showed more potential as a post up player than Beds.

Hopefully both of those guys show improvement in that department next year with some added strength!
 

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The great thing about Gurley is he has college experience with Furman and he had it against SEC programs before he transferred to us. Hopefully last season was the learning curve he needs to put up his best effort next season. The same goes for Bediako since he now has a season under his belt as well.
 

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The great thing about Gurley is he has college experience with Furman and he had it against SEC programs before he transferred to us. Hopefully last season was the learning curve he needs to put up his best effort next season. The same goes for Bediako since he now has a season under his belt as well.
Bediako is arguably one or two of the best returning centers in the conference.
 

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Its still Gurley, we haven't seem his full game take effect but he has a solid low post presence, can run the floor and create his own shot. I honestly think if he's considered more of a scoring option from the start of the game, the more we will see what he brings to the table take effect. Hopefully Bediako takes on more of the bully ball mentality in the low post

Carried us against Arkansas for a bit. He got position down low, got fed, and put up maybe six or eight straight points?
 

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Carried us against Arkansas for a bit. He got position down low, got fed, and put up maybe six or eight straight points?
I guess that must have been a game I missed. That's precisely the kind of situation I was referring to upthread. Having the kind of low post presence that we can turn to when the offense is struggling.

As mentioned, I'd kinda forgotten Gurley showed some real talent in the low post and I think Beds will be better next year too.

Even still, if there's room on the roster, I wouldn't hate if CNO took another experienced/proven big from the portal for next season. We seem to be guard/small forward heavy anyway.
 

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I guess that must have been a game I missed. That's precisely the kind of situation I was referring to upthread. Having the kind of low post presence that we can turn to when the offense is struggling.

As mentioned, I'd kinda forgotten Gurley showed some real talent in the low post and I think Beds will be better next year too.

Even still, if there's room on the roster, I wouldn't hate if CNO took another experienced/proven big from the portal for next season. We seem to be guard/small forward heavy anyway.
Not saying you’re wrong but, IMO We really don’t need another big unless he can truly spread the floor. We already have Nick Pringle and Noah Clowney coming in as a part of our recruiting class. With our style of play, we don’t need 5 bigs on the roster. What we really need is wing depth. Right now our only wings on the roster are Darius Miles and Brandon Miller. You could classify Rylan Griffen as a wing, but he is really more of a combo guard.

Every podcast or interview that I listen to, with CNO as a guest, he keeps alluding to his roster his last year at Buffalo. That year he would play a 3 lead guard lineup sometimes.

I really think Gurley will make the biggest improvement of anyone, on our roster from last year, to this year. I have no basis for this but, to me, it looks like he bulked up a little and was still getting used to playing at the heavier weight. JMO there though.
 

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Not saying you’re wrong but, IMO We really don’t need another big unless he can truly spread the floor. We already have Nick Pringle and Noah Clowney coming in as a part of our recruiting class. With our style of play, we don’t need 5 bigs on the roster. What we really need is wing depth. Right now our only wings on the roster are Darius Miles and Brandon Miller. You could classify Rylan Griffen as a wing, but he is really more of a combo guard.

Every podcast or interview that I listen to, with CNO as a guest, he keeps alluding to his roster his last year at Buffalo. That year he would play a 3 lead guard lineup sometimes.

I really think Gurley will make the biggest improvement of anyone, on our roster from last year, to this year. I have no basis for this but, to me, it looks like he bulked up a little and was still getting used to playing at the heavier weight. JMO there though.
Our ideal add would be someone similar to Terrence Shannon Jr. (looks like he’s going to Michigan)
 

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Frankie Collins enters portal out of Michigan. He was a top recruit coming out of high school last year. 6”1 guard.