Bama Game Thread: Official PostGame Thread - Bama @ FSU...

[CrimsonRuss]

Measures the amount of effort exerted by the player. (Can't remember what it's called, but it was brought in under Saban and was widely acclaimed as cutting edge.)

My mind is drawing a blank on the name of it at the moment...

I think it’s the catapult system.

 

[smith5753]

This may have already been addressed, but if TS has looked one way in scrimmages and practice and then looked like a dear in the headlights on Saturday, that’s all the more reason he needed more live game experience last year before taking the reins. I understand Milroe earned the opportunity to play in the bowl game and I understand as a program you don’t want to lose a premier game, but there has to be some planning ahead in those situations. In reality the bowl game with Michigan matters very little. No reason you can’t let the starter play 1-2 quarters and then give the probable future starter a head start in a real game. And that’s completely ignoring our specific situation last year where Milroe actually played horrible and didn’t get pulled.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

I think it’s the catapult system.

Yes, that's it.

 

[Coach D]

This may have already been addressed, but if TS has looked one way in scrimmages and practice and then looked like a dear in the headlights on Saturday, that’s all the more reason he needed more live game experience last year before taking the reins. I understand Milroe earned the opportunity to play in the bowl game and I understand as a program you don’t want to lose a premier game, but there has to be some planning ahead in those situations. In reality the bowl game with Michigan matters very little. No reason you can’t let the starter play 1-2 quarters and then give the probable future starter a head start in a real game. And that’s completely ignoring our specific situation last year where Milroe actually played horrible and didn’t get pulled.

After the uga game we will know for sure but part of me is starting to wonder if Milroe is actually the reason for success last year vs the coaching and that is why he never got pulled. He was good enough to go to playoffs year before granted the defense had a good DC vs a terrible one now. Again we will have to see but maybe just maybe he got too much heat and that includes me because I said he was terrible as well.

 

[CrimsonNagus]

I firmly believe that NIL is at the root of this complacency problem...

I keep seeing statements like this, but every team is dealing with NIL. Where are the complacency problems for OSU, Texas, LSU, Oregon, or even Auburn? I’m sure NIL is playing a role, but I put more on the coaches and the atmosphere they create around the program. DeBoer is as lifeless on the sidelines as the players are on the field. How can he demand fight and energy when he shows none?

 

[CB4]

The overriding question in all this is simply “Is this fixable?”. After listening to CKD post game and in his Monday presser, followed by Grubb and Wommack’s comments, I’m certainly not oozing with confidence.

We had an offensive line that looked like a sieve, unable to establish anything physical, and one guy out of highly touted receiver corp that seemed to be playing with effort. Nothing established in the run game to open up things.

CKW stated that nothing FSU did surprised us, yet our defense looked totally baffled. A offense that gashed us for 230 yards rushing and only needed 14 pass attempts for the game. The QB run game continues to kill us. Remember last year that OU and Jackson Arnold, with literally no receivers left due to injury, gashed us 130 yards in QB runs. Stockton at UGA, Sellers at USCe, and of course Arnold now at the Barn are all capable in the QB run game. And I’m sure there are others. CKD stated that he felt “the defense started to get its legs under them late in the third quarter. Seriously? Where the heck were their “legs” in the first two and half quarters? I keep hearing about “personnel” lacking on the D-line, players that don’t fit what we need. Well there is this thing called “the portal”. That team we played Saturday had 50+ new players, many of them transfers. Looks like they did a pretty good job of filling gaps.

Is it fixable? Yeah. But I’m not certain we have the leadership and decision making by both coaches and players to make it happen.

 

[bamaga]

Did CA quit the Football board?

 

[CB4]

Did CA quit the Football board?

I think , like many, CA’s college football “give a damn” is busted.

 

[mlh]

I keep hearing about “personnel” lacking on the D-line, players that don’t fit what we need. Well there is this thing called “the portal”. That team we played Saturday had 50+ new players, many of them transfers. Looks like they did a pretty good job of filling gaps.

Is it fixable? Yeah. But I’m not certain we have the leadership and decision making by both coaches and players to make it happen.

This is the new landscape for college football. FSU certainly did what they had to do to fix their issues. They cut out the dead wood and brought in the talent they needed. Almost half of their roster was "acquired" in the offseason.

However, CKD bragged about the fact that we have very few transfers in the spring. That would indicate that we have what they want on our roster. So "not having guys that fit the system" is a non sequitur.

 

[bamaga]

I think , like many, CA’s college football “give a damn” is busted.

I want to quit, and I don't have the desire to be a fan I once had. But withdrawing from a 58 year addiction is hard. Plus, I still have things to say about how wrong cfb has become. I admire CA for following through with what he said.

 

[SkullDuckery]

Looking back we should have given Kevin Steele a year contract for 10 million to stay on and let us find a coach that could have taken it over this year.

 

[arthurdawg]

Looking back we should have given Kevin Steele a year contract for 10 million to stay on and let us find a coach that could have taken it over this year.

Or kept Steel for DC and let him work out the kinks and install his own system. He did simplify things and instilled the best discipline we'd seen since 2017.

 

[Saban4Ever]

after last year, hubbard's lack of effort really surprised me

Me too, but I'm wondering that what looked like lack of effort sometimes was really confusion and not knowing what to do due to bad coaching. If they are hesitant then it makes them look slow because they ARE slow to react since they are confused. Still, most of this it seems is a coaching issue. Yes, there was lack of effort with some guys but that is also a coaching issue. Hopefully they will get some things fixed!

 

[JDCrimson]

When the ball advances past the LOS imo its no longer a coaching issue its an effort issue. If you can see the ball you should be pursuing with full effort. That did not happen Saturday.

Me too, but I'm wondering that what looked like lack of effort sometimes was really confusion and not knowing what to do due to bad coaching. If they are hesitant then it makes them look slow because they ARE slow to react since they are confused. Still, most of this it seems is a coaching issue. Yes, there was lack of effort with some guys but that is also a coaching issue. Hopefully they will get some things fixed!

 

[SkullDuckery]

Or kept Steel for DC and let him work out the kinks and install his own system. He did simplify things and instilled the best discipline we'd seen since 2017.

I think Steele was retiring so we’d probably have to throw him some money and control.

 

[smith5753]

I think Steele was retiring so we’d probably have to throw him some money and control.

I think had Steele stayed coach Saban may have stayed another year.