Bama Game Thread: Official Postgame Thread - Bama vs. USF...

[RollTide_HTTR]

We were going to run the jet sweep to KLaw OR JM was going to fake it and do a QB bootleg.

But the snap was there, but JM's hands weren't! Replay clearly shows his hands weren't prepared for the snap.

Right, but he hadn't been under center all day. It was a silly play call IMO

 

[colbysullivan]

Right, but he hadn't been under center all day. It was a silly play call IMO

Yes, it was a silly play call. It's also silly to think a starting D1 college QB can't handle a snap under center...

 

[tusks_n_raider]

IMO, it's has to be #2. We have seen what Ty can do. Let's just pretend like Milroe doesn't exist for a moment. Does anyone here seriously think Ty can't be as good as Coker or McCarron? That's all we need.

I think he could be better than both but I understand your point.

We'd probably be unstoppable with Carson Beck or Stetson Bennett

I watched highlights of all the games with Top 25 teams yesterday and was green with envy at other teams with QB's that went through progressions and threw WR's open and distributed the ball to their playmakers at different levels of the field.

 

[colbysullivan]

I think he could be better than both but I understand your point.

We'd probably be unstoppable with Carson Beck or Stetson Bennett

I watched highlights of all the games with Top 25 teams yesterday and was green with envy at other teams with QB's that went through progressions and threw WR's open and distributed the ball to their playmakers at different levels of the field.

He absolutely could, but we aren't allowed to say that.

 

[CrimsonEyeshade]

IMO, it's has to be #2. We have seen what Ty can do. Let's just pretend like Milroe doesn't exist for a moment. Does anyone here seriously think Ty can't be as good as Coker or McCarron? That's all we need.

if he was anywhere as good as AJ, he’d be starting.

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

Yes, it was a silly play call. It's also silly to think a starting D1 college QB can't handle a snap under center...

Like I said originally, Milroe should have been able to handle the snap.

But its more common to have snap issues under center than in shotgun especially for college QBs and especially if you rarely work under center. So the playcall was more frustrating to me in this case than the mistake by Milroe.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I think he could be better than both but I understand your point.

We'd probably be unstoppable with Carson Beck or Stetson Bennett

I watched highlights of all the games with Top 25 teams yesterday and was green with envy at other teams with QB's that went through progressions and threw WR's open and distributed the ball to their playmakers at different levels of the field.

That and I was green with envy of the top 25 teams whose OL didn't look like a swinging door.

 

[colbysullivan]

Like I said originally, Milroe should have been able to handle the snap.

But its more common to have snap issues under center than in shotgun especially for college QBs and especially if you rarely work under center. So the playcall was more frustrating to me in this case than the mistake by Milroe.

I agree. I said it was Sheridan's fault earlier. I hate the idea of being in shotgun from the 1 yard line, but it seems like QBs just don't know how to be under center anymore, so you might as well play to their strengths.

 

[colbysullivan]

if he was anywhere as good as AJ, he’d be starting.

You would think.

 

[denver]

if he was anywhere as good as AJ, he’d be starting.

Todays CFB dynamics are different....there are 'team" dynamics that seem to be affecting the QB decision...we saw it last year, Saban eluded to it....maybe its NIL, portal threat or something else...but its beyond a simple decision to replace a starting QB now

 

[crimsonaudio]

Haynes did an amazing job in that regard, he stoned several guys that game.

He is the complete package at running back.

Jam did as well - straight up brickwalled a LB on one blitz. It was a thing of beauty.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Todays CFB dynamics are different....there are 'team" dynamics that seem to be affecting the QB decision...we saw it last year, Saban eluded to it....maybe its NIL, portal threat or something else...but its beyond a simple decision to replace a starting QB now

Just speaking in general, the portal, IMO, has changed the landscape of college football more than anything. If a QB isn't playing and he thinks he should, he's gone at the next portal opening. If a WR isn't getting the touches or snaps he thinks he should, he's gone at the next portal opening (Bond is our example). Players have more leverage now than they ever have and that is both a good thing and a bad thing.

 

[BamaMoon]

Todays CFB dynamics are different....there are 'team" dynamics that seem to be affecting the QB decision...we saw it last year, Saban eluded to it....maybe its NIL, portal threat or something else...but its beyond a simple decision to replace a starting QB now

Yeah, we've made our bed. Now we've got to sleep in it.

If a change is warranted I hope it happens, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[mlh]

Just speaking in general, the portal, IMO, has changed the landscape of college football more than anything. If a QB isn't playing and he thinks he should, he's gone at the next portal opening. If a WR isn't getting the touches or snaps he thinks he should, he's gone at the next portal opening (Bond is our example). Players have more leverage now than they ever have and that is both a good thing and a bad thing.

Speaking of portal...

Pitt beat Cincinnati 28-27

Eli Holstein - 20 of 35, 302 yards, 3 TDs, 1 Int

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Speaking of portal...

Pitt beat Cincinnati 28-27

Eli Holstein - 20 of 35, 302 yards, 3 TDs, 1 Int

Yeah, he's going to be a very good quarterback for them. He's only going to get better.

 

[rtr90]

Speaking of portal...

Pitt beat Cincinnati 28-27

Eli Holstein - 20 of 35, 302 yards, 3 TDs, 1 Int

wow .. we missed a good one

 

[Slowpoke Catracho]

I'll bet Jay Barker is happy that there was no social media and message boards when he was at Bama.

 

[bamaslammer]

I would love to have a chat with #56 and ask him, (calmly so he does not get defensive), "Who did you think was going to block the defensive tackle lined up on your left shoulder? Immediately after the snap, you were looking in at the Nose lined up on the center. Who was going to black the defensive tackle?"
If the blocking scheme was drawn up in such a way that the LG doubled the nose and left an unblocked DT for the running back to pick up, then we have a scheme problem.

You are correct that there really is no excuse. There is no situation in any offense where a DL is let go for a running back to take. Let's just think about the physics here. A DL weighs from around 275 to 320. A running back weighs usually around 210. If your offense is calling on a RB to stop someone who outweighs them by 65 to 100 lbs you're going to get two results. One is a big fat "L", the other is a RB in the ER, make that three because hit's mom's going to shank you with a fountain pen from her purse when she finds you. Knowing that DeBoer isn't' stupid, and working from the inside out which every protection does, there is no way he should not have taken that guy, EVER. Even screens don't allow the inside guys immediate access.

 

[CoolBreeze]

Wow, here is an eye opening piece:

Learn to Live With Penalties: They’re Baked into DeBoer Ball

You don’t have to love ‘em, but you’ll have to learn to live with ‘em

www.rollbamaroll.com

 

[Tidewater]

I though it may be a rolling pocket, but if thats the case , 56 has to at least chip the DT, you cant expect a 215lb RB to block a 290 lb DT , and he didnt, he slowed him . 52 was completely beat by the speed rush and the linebacker behind the crashing DT came as well. There was a play to be made , off screen top right a receiver was running an out and the DB was playing soft . Im thinking the inside slant was not there because the mid level backer in the throwing lane.

All that said, before the play, i saw no oline communication. Maybe it was a stunt rolling pocket so they didnt want to tip it off. I think the biggest issue was players not used to olaying in those positions.

The irony was that #56 ends up blocking no one while the RB ends up being folded like a pocket knife.