Im tired of trying to make sense of rankings..might be worth taking the human element out of it somehow. Until Strength of schedule is truly taken into account then the playoffs are really a college football invitational vs the top 12 teams. Obvious differences are ignored...like ND's schedule, or Miami's losses ( they are 4th in the ACC rankings btw)..or either's signature wins vs low ranked teams...Oregon must be wearing an invisibility cloak..they have beaten no good team either. And even when you look at OhioSt/Indiana..their resume vs UGA or even 8&4 don't stand up. The 12 teams will not be the best 12. There will be changes again this summer I suspect. Cant wait for the 12 useful idiots to move us down for "struggling" and position it so if we lose Saturday we are out...even though teams sitting home get in with ZERO risk
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I wish that were true but even if we beat UGA we will not be a top 4 seed because we are still gonna be 10th in the CFP coming up on Tuesday. We are not gonna jump from 10th to 4th by winning the SEC because we will be 10th in the CFP standings going into the SECCG. We might get lucky and jump up high enough to host a playoff game.
Because everyone ahead of Alabama in the CFP standings won in week 14 except Tx A&M and Bama beat an unranked Auburn team. Tx A&M are currently 3rd and I don't see them falling below Bama even with their loss to Texas, so we remain at 10. Tx A&M will probably be at 7 or 8 on Tuesday when the updated CFP rankings come out.
Yep. We have run the gauntlet of the SEC and now it's just us and Georgia left to duke it out for the championship. I know the committee doesn't care but we shouldn't be punished for having to play yet another game. And I don't think our SEC commissioner would fight very hard to keep us in if we lose to Georgia.
Sankey won't lift a finger... He should be out there singing our praises about how he expects us to be in the playoffs and lobbying for us. He will passively stand by and then be happy when we don't make it. He is a weasel and should have been gone years ago.
I still say we just decline the SEC game invitation if we are #10 and don't get strong statements that the game won't affect us. Why would we play in the title game to be eliminated if we are in without it? It is ludicrous.
It would probably go in the books as a loss by forfeit and we’d be out anyway.
It is an interesting question... I'm not sure what the rule is or if we are obligated...
I get what you are saying but it’s not possible to just decline the bid for the SECCG.
If we didn’t show up they would just count it as a forfeit and award the game to UGA and we’d be eliminated anyway.
Plus it makes us look like a little crybaby like FSU in 2023.
All we can control is showing up and making a case for ourselves.
Either beat UGA or Make it a Major Heavyweight fight where it’s clear that both teams are Great and even in defeat the runner up should be in the Playoff.
Very true and not really a practical suggestion... But I would like to see Sankey go to bat for us and for our AD as well.
My guess is he already has, but doing so in a public forum is useless since it’s all decided behind closed doors.
I’m not sure either. I was just speculating. I guess we’re just going to have to go win the SEC to eliminate any chicanery.
I am not sure what happens if we lose the title game. We would need TT to beat BYU for sure. And we would probably need Duke to beat UVA. We should be ahead of ND right now but we know they won't do that.
However, if we win we are jumping a lot of teams. I don't understand those saying we won't. I think there is a very real possibility we would go to 4. Big 10 winner, Texas Tech, Big 10 loser, then us.
However, if we win we are jumping a lot of teams. I don't understand those saying we won't. I think there is a very real possibility we would go to 4. Big 10 winner, Texas Tech, Big 10 loser, then us.
How does Texas A&M have a higher SoS than Alabama? They didn't have to play Georgia, Alabama, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, or Vanderbilt. I get they played Notre Dame OOC, but that game alone is not enough to make up for their conference schedule, which was fairly manageable by SEC standards.
0% chance we jump that far.
We are capped by OU already being ahead of us and with a h-t-h advantage.
We should jump ND but its asinine for them to already be ahead of us.
Ore, OM, and A&M are all 11-1 and off
It’s just too many teams to jump and no argument other than hey they are officially SEC champs beating a team they already beat.
UGA is the only team we have a rock solid logic argument to jump.
No idea how that works either because they’d have to drop UGA below all those previously mentioned teams with us 1 spot ahead of them but both of us below everyone else.
It’s a mess because this committee is a train wreck and they absolutely do so little that logically makes sense.
The 7th Seed is about as far as we could climb.
Maybe 6th if we went absolutely scorched earth on UGA and ran them out of the stadium by 35+ points.
4th is impossible.
I say you are way off. Stating 0% chance/impossible is just ridiculous. Yes, the fact that we would be SEC champs at that point is a huge accomplishment and one they would recognize, The head to head with Oklahoma at that point won't matter. They have a history of making some large moves in the final rankings.
They don't they had a higher SoS than other undefeated teams when I posted that, but not higher than Alabama.
According to Sagarin, Alabama's SoS sits at 8. To put it another way, Alabama is 7-1 against Sagarin's top 30. The only other top (in Sagarin's rankings) team with an SoS in the single digits is South Carolina, sitting at 4-8
The only other team with 7 wins against the top 30 is Oklahoma, who are 7-2. If we add FSU's loss to the calculation, the only teams with Alabama's number of bet top 30 wins would be also be Oklahoma, the next would actually be Texas A&M at 5-1.
Alabama's SoS really stands out in the crowd, but the committee thus far chose to ignore it.
Edit: Well.... my post was made irrelevant, heh. Except he part about South Carolina, I guess.
If Alabama wins this weekend, they 100% move ahead of Oklahoma. I say Top 5, likely Top 4 as SEC champ.
Like I say we should jump ND.
They would maybe or probably jump us over OU via the SEC Championship and since both teams would have 2 losses.
11-2 Bama SEC Champs vs 10-2 OU they might give us the nod despite h-t-h
We’d 100% jump UGA. Same record and we’d have swept them 2-0
That gets us to #7
Not a single other team would have a record worse than 11-1 or 12-1
If BYU upset TTU then maybe we could get to the 6th Seed but that’s absolutely as far as we can go.
This committee doesn’t hold the SEC or Alabama on some kind of pedestal like I think many are hoping for.
They just don’t.
Nor do they truly try and judge teams objectively and take all the metrics fully into account.
They are mostly trying to reward every conference to some degree in equal measure including the lowly G5 teams.
They don’t see any one conference as superior.
They think the B1G and ACC is just as difficult as the SEC…
I mean these idiots are laughably bad at what they are doing.
They literally have ND ahead of us and said it’s because they run da bawl better.
That’s their tiebreaker when ND hasn’t beat a soul with a pulse.
If I end up being wrong I’ll own up to it but I’m honestly trying to prevent many from having a rug yanked out from under them and being mad about it on selection Sunday.
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