dems have been pushing for a move away from sole reliance on fossil fuels for a while and many of the plans to address climate change that have been put forward over the past couple of decades would have involved long term energy plans
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The answer to my question, though, is still neither. I've never heard any pol say we need a long-term energy plan. And by long term I'm talking 50+ years. And you can't say the green new deal was a plan -
plans actually can work and are generally feasible.
a lot of the stuff being talked about in the late 90s was talking long-term, at least in terms of impacts and alternate sources of energy. an integral part of any long-term energy plan is a move away from fossil fuels.
eta: but yes, much much more needs to be done
I get that all, but to date there has been no integrated strategy and plan. It's not like nobody's doing it
Long term energy planning support
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Democratic vs. Republican energy policy: Does it really make a difference? - Engineering and Public Policy - College of Engineering - Carnegie Mellon University
One of the biggest differences between the policies of the Democratic and Republican parties in recent years has been their approach to climate change. More specifically, the role of U.S. energy policy in carbon emissions output. EPP Professors Paul Fischbeck and Haibo Zhai tackle these supposed...
If people would shop for and buy more fuel efficient vehicles when they are ready to purchase, that would go a long way to easing up the supply/demand issues. The best answer isn't always to refine more gas and diesel.
If your vehicle gets under 25 mpg, there is a good chance that you are part of the problem.
If your vehicle gets under 25 mpg, there is a good chance that you are part of the problem.
All well and good, but that's a medium-term solution at best. Autos are typically held for years, and in times of financial pressure people tend to hold vehicles longer.
Yes, consumers need to do more, but we also need a better plan towards cleaner fuels.
It's weird that democrats simultaneously have no energy plan and are going to ruin the energy industry with their plans...isn't it odd? Seriously?
But let's get to where the rubber meets the road.
Have republicans sat down in good faith negotiations anytime in recent memory to hash out an agreement or has their stance been simple obstruction?
I get the feeling Biden is ready to negotiate with anyone who is willing for some give and take.
And don't misunderstand - there are some stubborn ones on the D side as well and if we are to get something done right no one will be entirely happy with every component.
But I wish we could get something done no matter who gets to take credit.
As it is we can't even agree on goals at all.
Hell, we can't even agree on reality.
But let's get to where the rubber meets the road.
Have republicans sat down in good faith negotiations anytime in recent memory to hash out an agreement or has their stance been simple obstruction?
I get the feeling Biden is ready to negotiate with anyone who is willing for some give and take.
And don't misunderstand - there are some stubborn ones on the D side as well and if we are to get something done right no one will be entirely happy with every component.
But I wish we could get something done no matter who gets to take credit.
As it is we can't even agree on goals at all.
Hell, we can't even agree on reality.
I mentioned this above - we need long-term planning, not 4-8 years' worth. Biden and co can make all the plans they want but if they lose to a repub who is pro-fossil fuel in 2024 it's all for nothing. And all that time, energy companies try to make long-term investment plans, but cannot commit if they don't know what the direction is.
It's why I said Congress needs to act - it's obvious that asking the executive branch to handle this isn't working. But getting congress to act on anything seems impossible anymore - even when the dems hold a slim majority it doesn't get done (I mention them because they seem to be the only ones who really care about addressing our dependency on non-renewable energy, not as a slight).
Obama unveils sharp increase in auto fuel economy
Several major auto makers on Friday embraced the Obama administration's proposal to push the industry further away from once-dominant gas guzzlers to more lean and efficient vehicles.
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Trump finalizes rollback of Obama-era vehicle fuel efficiency standards
President Donald Trump's administration on Tuesday completed a rollback of U.S. vehicle emissions standards adopted under his predecessor Barack Obama and will require 1.5% annual increases in efficiency through 2026 - far weaker than the 5% increases in the discarded rules.
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U.S. boosts fuel efficiency rules as Biden reverses Trump rollback
President Joe Biden's administration on Friday sharply boosted fuel economy standards for vehicles, reversing former President Donald Trump's rollback of U.S. regulations aimed at improving gas mileage and cutting tailpipe pollution.
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Yeah, we are pretty much in agreement here.
Dems can't get things done and they don't have enough votes to change the filibuster. That gives Rs outsized power in the senate, where they already have outsized power. It's essentially minority rule and their rule is obstructionism.
The Trump revision was only in place 4 years, so I don’t know how that may have affected vehicle offerings. Good thing it wasn’t eight yearsObama unveils sharp increase in auto fuel economy
Several major auto makers on Friday embraced the Obama administration's proposal to push the industry further away from once-dominant gas guzzlers to more lean and efficient vehicles.
Trump finalizes rollback of Obama-era vehicle fuel efficiency standards
President Donald Trump's administration on Tuesday completed a rollback of U.S. vehicle emissions standards adopted under his predecessor Barack Obama and will require 1.5% annual increases in efficiency through 2026 - far weaker than the 5% increases in the discarded rules.
U.S. boosts fuel efficiency rules as Biden reverses Trump rollback
President Joe Biden's administration on Friday sharply boosted fuel economy standards for vehicles, reversing former President Donald Trump's rollback of U.S. regulations aimed at improving gas mileage and cutting tailpipe pollution.
Yeah but it goes to the point of flip flopping every admin change. Just like refiners can’t snap their fingers, neither can auto makers.
Did corporate greed fuel inflation? It's not biggest culprit
Furious about surging prices at the gasoline station and the supermarket, many consumers feel they know just where to cast blame: On greedy companies that relentlessly jack up prices and pocket the profits.
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Macron tells Biden that UAE, Saudi can barely raise oil output
Two top OPEC oil producers, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, can barely increase oil production, French President Emmanuel Macron on Monday said he had been told by the UAE's president.
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Bezos obviously doesn't understand that gas prices are the largest component of what the average joe has seen in prices increases. Understandable, when your toilet paper rolls are 100 dollar bills.
Bezos Slams Biden Over Call for Lowering of Gas Prices
Amazon.com Inc. founder Jeff Bezos criticized a tweet from US President Joe Biden calling for oil executives to reduce gasoline prices.www.bloomberg.com
That Valero, a pure refiner, is posting lower prices would indicate that maybe (hopefully) refining margins are decreasing.
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