Some of those NFL guys get fined for it. Can't fine college guys.I’ve said it from the get go. If they would just adopt the NFL rule on targeting then no one would complain about it.
Some of those NFL guys get fined for it. Can't fine college guys.I’ve said it from the get go. If they would just adopt the NFL rule on targeting then no one would complain about it.
What’s the difference?I’ve said it from the get go. If they would just adopt the NFL rule on targeting then no one would complain about it.
I’m referring to the 2 strike flagrant and non flagrant rule. Ejection after an honest mistake is the bigger issue.Some of those NFL guys get fined for it. Can't fine college guys.
The give you two chances if you didn’t intentionally do it before tossing you. If you intentionally did it then you are tossed from the get go.What’s the difference?
Honest question here
The clempson LB was laughing about it on the sideline.The give you two chances if you didn’t intentionally do it before tossing you. If you intentionally did it then you are tossed from the get go.
Yes and it’s encouraged by the HC and DC, but so many here want both of them here in the near future.The clempson LB was laughing about it on the sideline.
The defensive player can change direction if he KEEPS HIS HEAD UP LIKE HE'S SUPPOSED TO. What we saw there isn't close to a perfect form tackle.I’m on the opposite end of this one. I’m completely in favor of the targeting rule and I understand the definition, but sometimes fault lies with the offensive player. Fields was about 3-4 yards away and on Skalski’s right side when loaded up for the hit. If Fields would have stayed on his path this probably would have been a perfect form tackle, but he tried a juke move and spun into the hit. I’m absolutely in favor of the targeting rule, but often times offensive players draw the targeting calls because they change their trajectory or body position after the defensive player has already committed.
I’m going with both.The defensive player can change direction if he KEEPS HIS HEAD UP LIKE HE'S SUPPOSED TO. What we saw there isn't close to a perfect form tackle.
When they lower their heads like that, yeah, the ball carrier can move and they have no idea, as they're staring at the ground instead of the guys belt buckle.
This is tackling 101, and it's shocking that we still have players at high levels of the sport who don't know better. Either Skalski is dumb as a bag of hammers or he's dirty. Or both.
Thanks for that. That’s my biggest beef with the targeting at the CFB level I suppose. One mistake and you’re gone and possibly missing the next oneThe give you two chances if you didn’t intentionally do it before tossing you. If you intentionally did it then you are tossed from the get go.
It's really not difficult to tackle properly. I'd bet greater than 99% of ejections come from careless / head-hunting or poor form. Correct those two things and you are very unlikely to have any issues.Thanks for that. That’s my biggest beef with the targeting at the CFB level I suppose. One mistake and you’re gone and possibly missing the next one
So the offensive player isn’t supposed to try to avoid a tackle by juking and spinning?I’m on the opposite end of this one. I’m completely in favor of the targeting rule and I understand the definition, but sometimes fault lies with the offensive player. Fields was about 3-4 yards away and on Skalski’s right side when loaded up for the hit. If Fields would have stayed on his path this probably would have been a perfect form tackle, but he tried a juke move and spun into the hit. I’m absolutely in favor of the targeting rule, but often times offensive players draw the targeting calls because they change their trajectory or body position after the defensive player has already committed.
I get what you’re saying and I guess if it didn’t carryover to the next game I’d feel differentlyIt's really not difficult to tackle properly. I'd bet greater than 99% of ejections come from careless / head-hunting or poor form. Correct those two things and you are very unlikely to have any issues.
I don’t disagree with anyone that Skalski isn’t a jerk, And that this hit will never make it into the heads up tackling manual. I also don’t disagree with the letter of the rule that it appears he led with his helmet. I’m just stating that often times players lead with their shoulder and their head gets in the way. If Fields wouldn’t have spun he likely would have taken a hard shoulder to the mid-section and this would be a completely different conversation.nope - the penalty isn't just for hitting with the helmet. Had the clemson LB kept his head UP and hit with the facemask, it is not a penalty, therefore nothing Fields did changed that. The penalty is 100% about hitting with the crown (TOP) of the helmet.
This is true. There is a lot of misunderstanding of the rule...nope - the penalty isn't just for hitting with the helmet. Had the clemson LB kept his head UP and hit with the facemask, it is not a penalty, therefore nothing Fields did changed that. The penalty is 100% about hitting with the crown (TOP) of the helmet.
It’s because people constantly hear helmet to helmet by announcers. The issue more is launching and leading with the head more than where you are hitting. There are many times where helmet to helmet isn’t targeting.This is true. There is a lot of misunderstanding of the rule...
Are you referring to the hit that paralyzed Chucky Mullins at Ole Miss?Note I am a high school official with limited knowledge of NCAA rules. In High School the hit would not have been targeting. The Federation has a separate rule for hitting with the crown of the helmet. Also, I have seen defenders break their neck with such a hit; it reminded me of Chucky Mullins hit on the VU player.
The rule is intended to put the burden on the defensive player not to lead with the crown of his helmet, which Skalski did. "If he hadn't dodged, I wouldn't have lowered my head" doesn't cut it. Even when tackling with the shoulder, the head must remain up. IOW, no excuses...I
I don’t disagree with anyone that Skalski isn’t a jerk, And that this hit will never make it into the heads up tackling manual. I also don’t disagree with the letter of the rule that it appears he led with his helmet. I’m just stating that often times players lead with their shoulder and their head gets in the way. If Fields wouldn’t have spun he likely would have taken a hard shoulder to the mid-section and this would be a completely different conversation.