News Article: RECRUITING ANALYSIS: Alabama tops recruiting lists with repeat performance [by JessN]

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In other words, a 14 to a 16 to an 18 is fine, but a 13 to a 19 is not.
I don't know the logic they use to come to the conclusion that a 6 point jump is very "suspect," but it seems bogus to me. The first time I took the ACT I think I made a 22. The second time I made a 28, and it was because I actually studied before taking it unlike the first time. I think it is not unreasonable to assume that most high school kids, especially ones concerned more with football (and being recruited and taking visits to school and making a decision where to go) than academics, may make a low score on their first try, then put more effort into studying and show drastic improvement. In fact, IMO, that explanation is more probable than that they are cheating to get a 6+ point bump.
 

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I don't know the logic they use to come to the conclusion that a 6 point jump is very "suspect," but it seems bogus to me. The first time I took the ACT I think I made a 22. The second time I made a 28, and it was because I actually studied before taking it unlike the first time. I think it is not unreasonable to assume that most high school kids, especially ones concerned more with football (and being recruited and taking visits to school and making a decision where to go) than academics, may make a low score on their first try, then put more effort into studying and show drastic improvement. In fact, IMO, that explanation is more probable than that they are cheating to get a 6+ point bump.
The basic purpose of it is that they want to make sure it's the same kid taking the test. Yes you can certainly improve dramatically if you prepare properly, but the NCAA really doesn't like that.

When they see a big point increase in a short period of time, they are afraid that someone else took the test for the prospect in question, and to be fair history shows that to be a pretty legitimate concern. I'm not saying it's necessarily right, but that is the logic behind it, and again, in all fairness to the NCAA, there have been a lot of documented cases in the past of other students taking the ACT for prospects.
 

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The basic purpose of it is that they want to make sure it's the same kid taking the test. Yes you can certainly improve dramatically if you prepare properly, but the NCAA really doesn't like that.

When they see a big point increase in a short period of time, they are afraid that someone else took the test for the prospect in question, and to be fair history shows that to be a pretty legitimate concern. I'm not saying it's necessarily right, but that is the logic behind it, and again, in all fairness to the NCAA, there have been a lot of documented cases in the past of other students taking the ACT for prospects.
Correct me if I'm wrong BET but I believe it was this basic situation that sent Brandon Lewis to JUCO.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong BET but I believe it was this basic situation that sent Brandon Lewis to JUCO.
Correct, that is what happened. He passed the mustard on the Sliding Scale, but the NCAA Clearinghouse rejected two test scores that would have resulted in him easily qualifying.

And that would have also claimed Alonzo Lawrence as well, but he was able to prove some type of learning disability so he could have the test administered orally, and that was the cause for his large increase. Even so, though, if I remember correctly they put him through the proverbial grinder pretty hard in his own right.
 

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